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05-28-2023 | 01:35 PM

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NuGuy

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Originally Posted by Sniper66

Let’s not forget

35 or so years ago most new hires were under 30

some airlines would not even look at applicant over 30

I’d say that’s close, and I’d add in the vast majority came from the military.

But that only applied to the “trunk” carriers like UAL, AMR, EAL, TWA, BNF, etc. “Local Service” carriers like Allegheny, Ozark, North Central were less choosy and more flexible who they hired.

Even the trunks went through their own little burble, and hired very low time people at the end of the 60’s. They even advertised in Flying and other magazines. Of course, all those pilots went to engineer seats, and most, if not all, were furloughed by 1972.

05-28-2023 | 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucflash

People with manual tranny time should automatically get the guppy.

Exactly, doing the bleed panel from push to delayed engine start and a bleeds off takeoff feels just like driving home from the employee lot in stop and go traffic

05-29-2023 | 08:19 AM

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Exactly, doing the bleed panel from push to delayed engine start and a bleeds off takeoff feels just like driving home from the employee lot in stop and go traffic

I seriously don’t understand the perceived complexity of the 737 overhead panel. It’s literally a few hour process to “get”, and then a total afterthought forever after.

Now, a manual tranny takes a bit more study.

05-29-2023 | 08:37 AM

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Especially considering that the system schematic is on the switch panel. I guess others have a different definition of hard.

05-29-2023 | 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedSwap

Saw this question posted elsewhere and thought this would be a good discussion for it…..With the absurd hiring boom + majors changing 1000 turbine from required to preferred, what are the lower 121 turbine times you’ve heard people getting interviews at UA with? I’ve heard 750 turbine routinely. Anything under that?

Not sure about total time, but in my 7 years as a CA @ this airline, the experience/quality of our newer pilots is noticably not as it good as it was pre COVID.

05-29-2023 | 08:42 PM

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Not sure about total time, but in my 7 years as a CA @ this airline, the experience/quality of our newer pilots is noticably not as it good as it was pre COVID.

I agree

filler

05-29-2023 | 10:26 PM

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Civilian
2400 Total Time
1300 Turboprop/Multi

Hired in 1997.

05-30-2023 | 08:50 AM

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Civilian
2400 Total Time
1300 Turboprop/Multi

Hired in 1997.

Intern?

9000 TT
6000 Turbine/ME

Received a Nancy Stuke congratulations letter in ‘96.

These days?

Only a clown nose for the ensuing show required.

05-30-2023 | 09:54 PM

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John Carr

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Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing

Intern?

And/or SaD, inter-company x-fer, etc.

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9000 TT
6000 Turbine/ME

12000 TT
10500 Turbine
5000 TPIC

Dark Decade, +

Spring 2016

Still convinced it was those years of three on the tree that did it…

05-30-2023 | 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

I’m not at United but had a kid in my JS 2 months ago that was at F9 with a class date at United. He had 1900tt and 350 turbine when he interviewed at United.

I wonder what the rest of the resume looked like