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Old 05-27-2023 | 10:24 AM
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Saw this question posted elsewhere and thought this would be a good discussion for it…..With the absurd hiring boom + majors changing 1000 turbine from required to preferred, what are the lower 121 turbine times you’ve heard people getting interviews at UA with? I’ve heard 750 turbine routinely. Anything under that?
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I got hired without any turbine time because I was able to substitute 15 years of driving cars with manual transmissions, so I’d say the new normal is pretty rad
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Originally Posted by BleedSwap
Saw this question posted elsewhere and thought this would be a good discussion for it…..With the absurd hiring boom + majors changing 1000 turbine from required to preferred, what are the lower 121 turbine times you’ve heard people getting interviews at UA with? I’ve heard 750 turbine routinely. Anything under that?

Wet ink ATP and a heartbeat is the new normal.
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Old 05-27-2023 | 01:23 PM
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Wet ink ATP and a heartbeat is the new normal.
Looking for specifically what turbine time
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Old 05-27-2023 | 01:46 PM
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there isn’t a clearly definable new normal

The hiring market isn’t steady state. People are being hired faster than they can be regenerated.

The company takes the best available. Three months later the best available is different

It is clearly trending towards FAA minimums
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Old 05-27-2023 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BleedSwap
Looking for specifically what turbine time

No one here has that info, but I can tell you that the average age of a new hire is around 35, with the same median. So whatever the average 35 year old would have in terms of hours would be the norm.
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Old 05-27-2023 | 02:39 PM
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I’m not at United but had a kid in my JS 2 months ago that was at F9 with a class date at United. He had 1900tt and 350 turbine when he interviewed at United.
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Old 05-27-2023 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
. So whatever the average 35 year old would have in terms of hours would be the norm.
Nitpicking… new average and new normal could be very different.

Something like 1.5sd below mean probably comes across as the new normal. Someone who has peers, isn’t the 8 ball etc. that seems like something closer to late 20’s 2000tt
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Nitpicking… new average and new normal could be very different.

Something like 1.5sd below mean probably comes across as the new normal. Someone who has peers, isn’t the 8 ball etc. that seems like something closer to late 20’s 2000tt
I’m not really sure what you’re saying. 35 is the average today. Those are actual numbers, not I met a dude guesses. If the median were far off from average, that would indicate that the age was skewed towards younger or older based on outliers, but it’s the same.

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A similar mean and median mean the curve is relatively symmetrical. It doesn’t tell you how wide it spreads.

10 guys age 34, 10 guys 35, 10 guys 36
10 guys 24, 10 guys 35, 10 guys 46

Both have the same mean and median

What I’m saying is when people say “what’s normal” they aren’t asking what’s average, they’re asking at what point getting hired is plausible without especially good luck.

given that the minimum hire age is twelve years under 35 and the maximum age is 25+ years over 35, a mean/median of 35 means a lot of 20-something guys are getting hired.
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