200 CA Vacancies in 23-10V
06-16-2023, 01:39 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by eagleatr
It's interesting to me they are running these bids every month to try and sucker someone just off probation to bid captain. If someone does that, I hope they understand what they are getting themselves in to.
06-16-2023, 03:26 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by eagleatr
It's interesting to me they are running these bids every month to try and sucker someone just off probation to bid captain. If someone does that, I hope they understand what they are getting themselves in to.
06-16-2023, 04:24 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
Why is it the junior CAs are always bagged on for upgrading? How many WB CA slots are open each bid? Oh…none…I hope they know what they are getting in to!
06-16-2023, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
Why is it the junior CAs are always bagged on for upgrading? How many WB CA slots are open each bid? Oh…none…I hope they know what they are getting in to!
06-18-2023, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CQKSNT
it’s the United culture. You earn your respect by breathing for 30 or 40 years after you were hired.
06-18-2023, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
Why is it the junior CAs are always bagged on for upgrading? How many WB CA slots are open each bid? Oh…none…I hope they know what they are getting in to!
06-18-2023, 09:39 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
And that there is the problem. They all want to complain about upgrades all while getting theirs. I will say I used to think that the new generation of pilots were the "All about me" generation, but after coming here, I can see that they are not the first generation to be like that. The amount of senior pilots that would bend you over the barrel to get themselves ahead is astounding. I get it... They had a hard go. Furloughs, bad economics etc... But what about trying to not let it happen to those behind you? They seem to lack that understanding. Oh well.... Guess Ill start picking up PP at 50% since we are all about ourselves....
Each pilot will vote for any contract based on how it benefits THEIR situation.
UAL management knows this and will do whatever they can to get a TA to what they think can pass 50+1%.
And with the RLA, time is NEVER on the side of labor.
06-18-2023, 10:05 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by yesto67
watched ALPA throw LUAL 1999-2000 hires under the SLI bus.
LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots were given a WINDFALL with the SLI. Never had furloughed pilots been placed ahead of active, never furloughed pilots until the CAL/UAL merger. Many LCAL pilots had HUNDREDS of UNEMPLOYED pilots placed above them over night. People who were UNEMPLOYED became line holding pilots overnight at the expense of never furloughed LCAL pilots. LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots had ALL of their longevity counted while the bottom 1/3 of the CAL list did NOT.
LUAL ALPA actually did a FANTASTIC job. Brucia rightly went into hiding after the award because he should be ashamed of himself.
To say that a pilot who was unemployed had any right to be placed above a pilot that was currently employed was and is the height of arrogance.
06-18-2023, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp
Ok, TEN plus years later and you’re still talking about this…so let’s talk about it.
LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots were given a WINDFALL with the SLI. Never had furloughed pilots been placed ahead of active, never furloughed pilots until the CAL/UAL merger. Many LCAL pilots had HUNDREDS of UNEMPLOYED pilots placed above them over night. People who were UNEMPLOYED became line holding pilots overnight at the expense of never furloughed LCAL pilots. LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots had ALL of their longevity counted while the bottom 1/3 of the CAL list did NOT.
LUAL ALPA actually did a FANTASTIC job. Brucia rightly went into hiding after the award because he should be ashamed of himself.
To say that a pilot who was unemployed had any right to be placed above a pilot that was currently employed was and is the height of arrogance.
LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots were given a WINDFALL with the SLI. Never had furloughed pilots been placed ahead of active, never furloughed pilots until the CAL/UAL merger. Many LCAL pilots had HUNDREDS of UNEMPLOYED pilots placed above them over night. People who were UNEMPLOYED became line holding pilots overnight at the expense of never furloughed LCAL pilots. LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots had ALL of their longevity counted while the bottom 1/3 of the CAL list did NOT.
LUAL ALPA actually did a FANTASTIC job. Brucia rightly went into hiding after the award because he should be ashamed of himself.
To say that a pilot who was unemployed had any right to be placed above a pilot that was currently employed was and is the height of arrogance.
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