Tumi 4.0?
09-07-2023 | 03:41 AM
#71
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Direct-ish Entry Captains. Forced Upgrades.
Better?
To reiterate, my post is about how this removes any motivation to increase pay or QOL for NB CAs. The only reason regionals are now seeing massive pay and QOL increases is because they physically don't have enough pilots to force upgrade.
Better?
To reiterate, my post is about how this removes any motivation to increase pay or QOL for NB CAs. The only reason regionals are now seeing massive pay and QOL increases is because they physically don't have enough pilots to force upgrade.
This contract allows forced upgrades ,??
09-07-2023 | 03:48 AM
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Andy, I went round and round with Sunvox regarding Delta's profit sharing and receiving a DC on top . It took a couple of months for him to see the light about Delta's PS. I am glad you got a Delta match on that
I hope that eventually you'll understand that Delta's work rules, reserve, "rolling thunder", PB days, sick leave, vacation and a whole host of other work rules allow the Delta pilots to credit huge months of pay. Yes, sometimes it is by working 16 or 17 day, sometimes way less, as Fangs and Hockeypilot said.
Other than PPU, is there any way for United pilots to credit 120 hrs/month?
BTW...we all understand that "not everyone" can do it, but guess what? A lot of pilots don't want to do it therefore, it is fairly common up and down the seniority list depending on the niche that one is in. But there are a lot of different avenues to max out pay. Additionally, that increased "productivity" also reduces the number of pilots required. It doesn't do any good for you to understand the in's and out's, you'll just have to trust Fangs that it is very commonplace.
I hope that eventually you'll understand that Delta's work rules, reserve, "rolling thunder", PB days, sick leave, vacation and a whole host of other work rules allow the Delta pilots to credit huge months of pay. Yes, sometimes it is by working 16 or 17 day, sometimes way less, as Fangs and Hockeypilot said.
Other than PPU, is there any way for United pilots to credit 120 hrs/month?
BTW...we all understand that "not everyone" can do it, but guess what? A lot of pilots don't want to do it therefore, it is fairly common up and down the seniority list depending on the niche that one is in. But there are a lot of different avenues to max out pay. Additionally, that increased "productivity" also reduces the number of pilots required. It doesn't do any good for you to understand the in's and out's, you'll just have to trust Fangs that it is very commonplace.
09-07-2023 | 08:51 AM
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They say life is all about perspective. Man, they weren’t kidding.
Where you all see DEC as a bad thing, I would have given my left nut for the opportunity. I had to wait 20 years.
Where you see reserve rules as being onerous or untenable, I see a job that pays you a massive salary to simply be on call (and, god forbid, have to actually work).
Don’t get me started on the other items.
Solid yes vote on this one.
And I say it again, perspective.
Where you all see DEC as a bad thing, I would have given my left nut for the opportunity. I had to wait 20 years.
Where you see reserve rules as being onerous or untenable, I see a job that pays you a massive salary to simply be on call (and, god forbid, have to actually work).
Don’t get me started on the other items.
Solid yes vote on this one.
And I say it again, perspective.
I agree
I would have taken a street captain no question asked if I had the chance during initial indoc
09-08-2023 | 03:22 AM
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There is no offset to outside income at Delta until you reach 100% of your FAE. If I pilot at Delta is pulling in that kind of money on a side job disability is probably not an issue.
09-08-2023 | 03:30 AM
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under the UA plan, your LTD payments are not taxable, so having a separate source of income while on LTD does kill you as bad on taxes.
09-08-2023 | 03:55 AM
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My only point is that one of these plans does equal the better option for each individual (obviously we don’t get a choice), but a single plan is not the best for all of us.
09-08-2023 | 05:20 AM
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Applicants don’t read agreements prior to employment; moreover, none of the ones coming from outside of 121 will have any idea what they’re reading.
09-08-2023 | 05:30 AM
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I disagree. I think there will be people jumping over each other for a chance at near instantaneous Captain upgrade at a Legacy airline. Most military guys will probably see it as a continuation of their aircraft commander status and most young people will see it for what it is. It’s a chance to make $300,000ish a year to be on call in your early to mid 20s. I would absolutely still apply here.
09-08-2023 | 05:36 AM
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You are wrong. But, let's imagine for a moment you are right. Sounds like a great deal of leverage in our next negotiation.
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