Please think before you vote!!
09-08-2023 | 12:40 PM
#23
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Just voted yes, easy yes vote.
Watched all the fact team videos, have thoroughly read the red line and black ta for the past week. This contract is a huge step forward.
Anyone who thinks voting no will have their items fixed without giving up some of what’s been agreed to is a fool. The contract is a 10B value, if you vote no, you will be getting another revision at 10B at best. Then y’all will vote no for giving up some items in this one.
Let’s simplify negotiations. You give and take, and hope that your gives are less than the takes. You will never ever get 100% of what you want, ever. This contract is an excellent agreement.
Watched all the fact team videos, have thoroughly read the red line and black ta for the past week. This contract is a huge step forward.
Anyone who thinks voting no will have their items fixed without giving up some of what’s been agreed to is a fool. The contract is a 10B value, if you vote no, you will be getting another revision at 10B at best. Then y’all will vote no for giving up some items in this one.
Let’s simplify negotiations. You give and take, and hope that your gives are less than the takes. You will never ever get 100% of what you want, ever. This contract is an excellent agreement.
09-08-2023 | 01:54 PM
#24
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I hope some of you geniuses step up and take positions on thr negotiating committee. Maybe when you're confronted by reality you'll grow up and ****. I guess maybe you could have some formula to extract all gains from a negotiation? If so, you should go to thr DoS and save the world and not waste your talents on the vagaries of pilot contracts.
09-08-2023 | 02:00 PM
#25
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I hope some of you geniuses step up and take positions on thr negotiating committee. Maybe when you're confronted by reality you'll grow up and ****. I guess maybe you could have some formula to extract all gains from a negotiation? If so, you should go to thr DoS and save the world and not waste your talents on the vagaries of pilot contracts.
09-08-2023 | 02:05 PM
#26
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I hope some of you geniuses step up and take positions on thr negotiating committee. Maybe when you're confronted by reality you'll grow up and ****. I guess maybe you could have some formula to extract all gains from a negotiation? If so, you should go to thr DoS and save the world and not waste your talents on the vagaries of pilot contracts.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
09-08-2023 | 02:07 PM
#27
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I guess I’m an “idiot” cause I’m a NO vote. The forced upgrade is too big of a lever to give to the company. Take that out and I’ll vote yes despite it being less than Delta’s contract. I suggest you look at our new airplane delivery schedule and the number of captains and do some math.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
09-08-2023 | 02:12 PM
#28
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From: 767/757 CA
I guess I’m an “idiot” cause I’m a NO vote. The forced upgrade is too big of a lever to give to the company. Take that out and I’ll vote yes despite it being less than Delta’s contract. I suggest you look at our new airplane delivery schedule and the number of captains and do some math.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
09-08-2023 | 02:22 PM
#29
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From: 737 CA
I guess I’m an “idiot” cause I’m a NO vote. The forced upgrade is too big of a lever to give to the company. Take that out and I’ll vote yes despite it being less than Delta’s contract. I suggest you look at our new airplane delivery schedule and the number of captains and do some math.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
Anyone voting for this solely for the retro is incredibly short sighted.
09-08-2023 | 02:30 PM
#30
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Folks,please think before you vote on this sub par TA. First,in many areas,its only slightly better than what we had at my last regional .There will not be another contract completed in 3 years.Do you really want to work under these rules for the next 7-10 years??Dont come online complaining in a few months when they start enforcing the same rules you voted for. Lets send it back and truly get some thing thats industry leading? We will NEVER have as much leverage as we have now. NEVER.This is our opportunity to get it right.Im eligible to vote and myself and the guys in my new hire class are all 99% NO.
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