Well I wouldnt be bidding EWR anyways so is it systemwide or just basewide?

 

This displacement only applies to a two categories: EWR 777 FO & CA. The effect of that will be felt accross other categories, though, since those people affected will bid to go somewhere, if that makes sense.

No one will know where the people go to until the displacement bid closes.

 

so regardless of your own fleet or base etc, you can get kicked out of any fleet and base or at least there is that possibility systemwide?
thanks

 

not on this displacement. If another seat gets significantly over staffed due to this displacement you see another displacement. But I would say that would be highly unlikely.

 

About the only thing it would affect would be how the future vacancy bids would look. If the displacement netted a bunch of ORD 737 FOs, for example, and now that category was over-staffed, they wouldn’t advertise it on subsequent near-term vacancies. At least that’s the most likely outcome.

 

I’m new to UAL, but certainly not the industry. I’ve experienced my fair share of displacement bids over multiple airlines, but since displacement language is highly contractual, I’m curious about the UAL process as well. However, here’s how I understand it and someone with more knowledge can correct me if I’m wrong:

This is not a “bump and flush” where a 777 FO displacing down to 756 FO would bump out the most junior 756 FO. It’s more of a reallocation. Those EWR 777 pilots affected will be able to bid into any position that any pilot junior to them currently holds. Pilots junior to that displaced 777 pilot will feel the effect by way of seniority loss and a senior pilot now coming in on top of them. Ex. There are 100 EWR 756 FOs and 10 777 FOs displace to 756 FO. There will now be 110 756 FOs after the displacement bid closes. Those bottom seniority 756 FOs will feel the hurt by way of lost bidding power/seniority.

So, the short of it, if you aren’t currently on the EWR 777 then this upcoming displacement bid won’t bump you out of BES. However, if the company determines, following the closing of this displacement bid, that they are now heavy in another category as a result of the reshuffle of the first displacement bid, they *could* run another to right size the new top heavy fleet. (In the example above, they could run an EWR 756 displacement bid). They could also just let natural attrition even things out over time and just not offer future vacancies in that category until “nature” takes is course.

I wouldn’t worry too much if you’re a brand new hire on a narrowbody and not on the east coast. It’s unlikely you’d even see a ripple let alone feel it.

 

I’m a fairly junior 737 CA out of EWR. What are the chances of getting bumped out of that category?

 

read the post above

you cannot get bumped unless they run a 737 CA displacement for EWR which is highly unlikely since EWR is short of 737 CA

 

Makes sense. Thanks.

 

The CCS vacancy bidding page has been refreshed. Right now it’s showing 777 EWR authorized at 122 Captains, 274 First Officers.