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TallFlyer 11-11-2023 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty N Two (Post 3723234)
United has most widebody flying, but you’ll probably have to fly out of Newark for awhile

Delta has more premium pay opportunities and but will take a long time to get a WB seat. Delta also has double breasted (Aka Russian Navy Officer) jackets

American is the third Major… go here if you can live in base

One could argue that if you're going to be commuting regardless, AA would be the better choice as it has a one flight commuter policy and reservable JS 8 days out.

But the short answer is go where you can drive to work. Period. The rest is gravy.

tallpilot 11-11-2023 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by MaxThrust1 (Post 3723279)
Oh look, the 26th thread on this exact topic.

Not really.


Originally Posted by M094 (Post 3723268)
With the new contracts, what are some reasons American would still be viewed as the “third best” major?

Lots of info out there on this site with old contract stuff in terms of pay, QOL, etc.

For someone just about to enter the 121 world, it would be very helpful to read, in broad terms, the major pros and cons for each of the Big 3 with their new contracts in terms of pay, QOL, reserve rules, etc.

Thanks in advance.

This is correct. It's easy to bag on the OP for not doing 'research' but the new contracts have changed things and I haven't seen a detailed comparison of the 3 yet.

Contract language only tells part of the story though as does relative seniority in seat/base. QoL is in the eye of the beholder. As mentioned it certainly improves if you live in base. American has big
bases in states without income tax. American has decent reserve rules and you don't have to wear a hat. (No, it isn't a cover, if it were you'd take it off indoors and it would be more bearable).
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MaxThrust1 11-11-2023 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3723290)
Not really.
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Sorry. I guess sarcasm isn’t a thing at AA.

CRJCapitan 11-11-2023 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Brickfire (Post 3723238)

It's harder to get people to argue whether American is in the top 2 choices.

People will eventually realize this is based on outdated stereotypes, but it'll be too late.

tallpilot 11-11-2023 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by MaxThrust1 (Post 3723314)
Sorry. I guess sarcasm isn’t a thing at AA.

Guess we lost our sense of humor being second string for so long.

I understood your sarcasm. But I hope this thread does well.

golfandflows 11-11-2023 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Snoopy233 (Post 3723209)
Been digging a lot recently but would apprecitate any notes ... Any key points in diffrences of QOL, pay, contract?


Why don’t you just start a AA vs UA vs DL vs WN vs flex jet vs netjet so everyone can do your homework for you?

Carrier1arrived 11-12-2023 10:11 AM

So, since seniority and livin in base is a game changer for the 3, AA should be a first pick because of the retirements?
Saying someone able to relocate to any base, even the other 2.

ThumbsUp 11-12-2023 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Carrier1arrived (Post 3723579)
So, since seniority and livin in base is a game changer for the 3, AA should be a first pick because of the retirements?
Saying someone able to relocate to any base, even the other 2.


That’s hard to say because each company presents a different scenario at each level of relative seniority. Meaning, what do you get a 20%, 40%, etc. Go where you want to live, if you’re willing to relocate or already live in a specific company’s domicile.

Tinpusher007 11-12-2023 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty N Two (Post 3723234)

Delta has more premium pay opportunities and but will take a long time to get a WB seat. Delta also has double breasted (Aka Russian Navy Officer) jackets

We've had recent newhires go right to the 330 and 350, and not all in NYC either. Also, with our new uniform, single breasted blazers are now an option. But from what I hear, good luck getting anything to fit correctly and you still have to wear a hat, so there's that.

Sliceback 11-12-2023 12:13 PM

Easy method to decide - where do you want to live? If one of the Big 3 has a base within driving distance quit driving yourself crazy - the answer is right in front of you.

Don't care where you want to live? Apply to all 3. Take the first one that gives you the first class date. No more need to drive yourself crazy.

Unless you look at the seniority advancement, and w/b flying, in each base for each airline you're willing to fly for it's a difficult thing to research. I've done it for guys but they had one airline as #1 and were choosing between two bases OR had one city in mind and were choosing between 2 airlines. Right now you're looking at 3 airlines and a dozen plus bases. They had 2 choices to choose between. You're looking at 30-40 options and we have no clue what you value more than a different choice.

The dollar difference between the airlines is probably minimal. Pick your preferred domicile and pursue that airline(s).


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