What are UL competitve mins?
#11
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Hi Guys,
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
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Hi Guys,
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
#13
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Hi Guys,
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
#15
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Hi Guys,
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
My question is along the same lines. I am a 3200 Hr 135/91 guy with lots of PIC turbine and a good amount of PIC jet but no 121. I put in an app about 4 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Am i competitive yet in the current environment? Should i just keep updateing it and see what happens? Thanks.
With 3200 hrs and enough applications out you should be contacted unless there's stuff you're holding back. Maybe not the carrier of your choice but a resume improving, and possible destination job, should find you in the near term. But 4 weeks since you applied is a short time. A regional might call you in a week but that doesn't mean the majors rate your resume as highly as they're getting plenty of 3000+ hr applications.
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Define 'lots of turbine PIC' and a 'good amount of PIC jet'? How much 135 time? What type or aircraft? They like 500 hrs TPIC and REALLY like 1000 hrs TPIC. But in general those candidates are getting hired quicker. Hopefully you have apps in to a half dozen operators who'd be better destination jobs than your current gig?
With 3200 hrs and enough applications out you should be contacted unless there's stuff you're holding back. Maybe not the carrier of your choice but a resume improving, and possible destination job, should find you in the near term. But 4 weeks since you applied is a short time. A regional might call you in a week but that doesn't mean the majors rate your resume as highly as they're getting plenty of 3000+ hr applications.
With 3200 hrs and enough applications out you should be contacted unless there's stuff you're holding back. Maybe not the carrier of your choice but a resume improving, and possible destination job, should find you in the near term. But 4 weeks since you applied is a short time. A regional might call you in a week but that doesn't mean the majors rate your resume as highly as they're getting plenty of 3000+ hr applications.
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this needs to be sticky in every carriers sub-forums as well….
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I'll rewrite your info -
3600 TT
1800 TPIC in 3 different a/c
2 type ratings.
800 hrs Part 135
How much TPIC in each type? I've heard a friend very high up in the pilot hiring food chain say "we're not getting guys with TPIC time. Or it's PC-12 time." I don't know if they don't count SEL TPIC time or if they, or just he, doesn't rate it as highly. Or if it's an opinion/observation that he has that the system doesn't care about?
How flexible/mobile are you? Can you pull chocks and move to improve your resume? Compare that to the hours you're getting now. I'd look at the regionals offering quick upgrades once you get 1000 hrs of qualfiying time. They'd hire you with 950 hrs qualifying time for a rapid/direct entry upgrade. I'd ask the regional airlines directly if your TPIC and Part 135 time qualifies. If it does you're already above the TPIC trigger lines of 500/1000 hrs TPIC.
IMO the thing that stands out that you can do that would improve your resume is - go through a Part 121 school, fly a bigger jet, get a new type rating and possibly get 121 TPIC time in a couple of months (6-12?). You're already 'qualified', and might be considered 'highly qualified' (1000 hrs TPIC) if all your TPIC time is considered qualifying. Look at the 'holes' in your resume vs what others have and figure out if you can add what they have to your resume. Look 3, 6, 12 months in the future and make resumes for those time periods. Do that for your current job vs pursuing other jobs. Does doing more CItation XL, K350, of PC-6 time improve your resume? At what point is it just more ground hog time on your resume if you meet the general minimums (3000 hrs TT/500 or 1000 hrs TPIC)?
Last edited by Sliceback; 11-21-2023 at 05:14 AM.
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The drop off in hiring by the LCC's, and perhaps some other carriers, might increase the average/typical minimum standards in the coming months/year(s).
I'd guess you're in the low end of the range *but* above the minimums based on the lower edge of the people getting major airline jobs.
Fly as much as you can, on anything, and update at least every month. TPIC/turbine/large jet would be best but everything tacked on helps. If you're not above the numbers the computer program is looking for you're darn close. Every update might be the triggering event.
Good luck.
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