Former Frontier crew, was it worth it? Why?
01-19-2024 | 04:20 PM
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For those of you who came to United from Frontier, how much greener is the grass over there, and more specifically, why?
As much as Frontier has its problems (and lagging payscale), I'm curious about what specific reasons make United a much better place to work in terms of pay, QOL, and day-to-day flying? I know that when I came to Frontier from the regional I quickly realized how much better it was, the trips at Frontier are much easier than the regional (2 x 3hr legs vs 4 or 5 legs to get similar credit), I get 15-19 days off a month at Frontier vs 12-15 at a regional, and my ability to swap/drop trips is pretty reasonable. I guess my point is that while I was at the regional, I didn't realize how much better it was at Frontier, a lot of people viewed it as a 'lateral move' to come here, but in my experience, it simply isn't the case.
So now this has me thinking, for what reasons is United better than Frontier, aside from the payscale? How much better can it be flying the same aircraft, staying at the same/similar hotels and going to the same/similar destinations? How long does it take at United to get 15-19 days off a month, is it consistent throughout the bases? How easy is it to trade/drop trips? Would a new-hire expect to be stuck on redeye trips for a while?
Thanks for your input ya'll <3
As much as Frontier has its problems (and lagging payscale), I'm curious about what specific reasons make United a much better place to work in terms of pay, QOL, and day-to-day flying? I know that when I came to Frontier from the regional I quickly realized how much better it was, the trips at Frontier are much easier than the regional (2 x 3hr legs vs 4 or 5 legs to get similar credit), I get 15-19 days off a month at Frontier vs 12-15 at a regional, and my ability to swap/drop trips is pretty reasonable. I guess my point is that while I was at the regional, I didn't realize how much better it was at Frontier, a lot of people viewed it as a 'lateral move' to come here, but in my experience, it simply isn't the case.
So now this has me thinking, for what reasons is United better than Frontier, aside from the payscale? How much better can it be flying the same aircraft, staying at the same/similar hotels and going to the same/similar destinations? How long does it take at United to get 15-19 days off a month, is it consistent throughout the bases? How easy is it to trade/drop trips? Would a new-hire expect to be stuck on redeye trips for a while?
Thanks for your input ya'll <3
Former F9 here. If you stay Narrowbody you’ll probably feel like it is similar flying, fewer red eyes though. In flight meals, there’s support for everything, and you feel proud to show up to work. Flying for F9 was great, but watching a gate agent yell at a customer for not having $100 to pay for a carryon was not pleasant. To the major differences, on my days off o can catch a flight first class to Europe or Asia and it’s easy. United just has way more resources and benefits. Highly worth the move.
02-20-2024 | 09:03 AM
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Current F9 Captain here: Recently recieved the CJO from UA and really excited. Currently waiting on background and a class date. Question I have is, do I take the 737 CA position or hold off and wait a year or 2 to get Airbus Captain? I live in LAS but heard due to the MAX delays, UA may bring the bus into LAS. Thanks guys
02-20-2024 | 09:10 AM
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Current F9 Captain here: Recently recieved the CJO from UA and really excited. Currently waiting on background and a class date. Question I have is, do I take the 737 CA position or hold off and wait a year or 2 to get Airbus Captain? I live in LAS but heard due to the MAX delays, UA may bring the bus into LAS. Thanks guys
02-20-2024 | 09:11 AM
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02-20-2024 | 09:20 AM
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Current F9 Captain here: Recently recieved the CJO from UA and really excited. Currently waiting on background and a class date. Question I have is, do I take the 737 CA position or hold off and wait a year or 2 to get Airbus Captain? I live in LAS but heard due to the MAX delays, UA may bring the bus into LAS. Thanks guys
However, if you want to stay in LAS I would go 737. As you well know, don’t believe any rumors until you actually see them happen. For what it’s worth, I’m also a former F9 captain who made the switch to UAL and opted to take the 737. I’m about to start upgrade on the 737 as well. Don’t fear the plane. She’s a good bird. Once you build up some calluses on your fingertips from all the switch flipping and you learn the art of eating crew meals on your lap without getting your uniform dirty, you may find that you like it more than the Airbus.
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