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Old 04-18-2024, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
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The best thing a United pilot could do for the company is to say "If this is as it appears it is inexcusable and should not be tolerated by any of us. We are better than this and it is not representative of the way 99.99% of us do our jobs".

Simple.
The best thing a United pilot could do is shut the f up on social media (including this forum). You're not involved and nobody cares what you think. This is being dealt with by serious people who actually matter. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings, or sense of importance.
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Qazwsx1 View Post
At Expressjet the cockpit was so small the FA would have to sit in our seat when we would go use the bathroom in flight...is that bad? Is that any different then what's on video? When I was an intern with JS privileges the captain on a 777 let me sit in his seat and took a pic on a pax flight between hubs. Is that any different then an FA sitting at the controls when a pilot is in the LAV?

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FA's are not allowed on the seat, officially, on most fleet types. There have been incidents, including a "savvy" FA who knew how to use the electric seat adjustments and drove the seat forward... driving the armrest into an object placed next to the joystick. The FO salvaged that one without major ramifications. "Dual Input!"

CA's have not been allowed to let Interns occupy flight controls stations for a long time.
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jdavk View Post
I hope this thread gets deleted, but it’s probably too late.
I'd say it's too late, it's already out there on the insta anyway.

At APC we have to draw a fine line with stuff like this, but our default is slightly more open sharing of info (and discussion) which would often otherwise be shut down on company or union channels. That's also why we have allowed anonymous accounts, unlike some other forums.
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jdavk View Post
How does spamming the video everywhere forward the cause of demanding personal accountability when the person who made the decision to allow passengers into the cockpit doesn’t even appear in the video (as far as we know)?
It went viral outside of the aviation community. From the moment the videographer shared that video with one person, he or she should have assumed it would end up everywhere. How is it remotely relevant whether or not the catpain was in the video? If the captain was wearing a disguise or invisible, would that also absolve them of the fallout here?

I really don't have much sympathy for such egregiously terrible judgement; how in the world can such poor judgment and professionalism be rehabilitated?

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Old 04-18-2024, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AbjectFutility View Post
The best thing a United pilot could do is shut the f up on social media (including this forum).
Where exactly did you just write this?
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
Where exactly did you just write this?
Aren't you a FDX pilot?
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan View Post
ok slight difference between execution style murder and letting a baseball coach into the flight deck on a charter flight.. Still wrong, but I think we can easily see how one could be handled internally vs the other one. Maybe the captain needs to take a permanent right seat assignment from now on, and the FO needs an A$$ chewing about speaking up. But if you can’t see the difference between the two scenarios, maybe YOU need the psych eval.
Metaphor
1 : a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object
or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them
(as in drowning in money)

Just to clarify, nobody actually drowns in the example metaphor.
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nene View Post
Part of the Commercial or ATP syllabus should be mandatory to sit through the 11 or so seasons of Air Crash Investigations from the Smithsonian TV Network so that as a profession, if we are going to make mistakes, they aren't at least the same mistakes as the past.
Yeah I watched all of them when I had some down time once, mil leave or covid leave, don't recall. Worth wading through the slightly sensational and preachy tone.
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Old 04-18-2024, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
The best thing a United pilot could do for the company is to say "If this is as it appears it is inexcusable and should not be tolerated by any of us. We are better than this and it is not representative of the way 99.99% of us do our jobs".

Simple.
Totally agree with you. I have watched it several times and can't believe it's actually real, but there it is. So incredibly effed up.

Originally Posted by AbjectFutility View Post
The best thing a United pilot could do is shut the f up on social media (including this forum). You're not involved and nobody cares what you think. This is being dealt with by serious people who actually matter. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings, or sense of importance.
your barn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your horse

I can and will denounce such BS and total failures of judgement. Oh, and I am involved when family and friends once again ask, WTF is going on with UA.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
The best thing a United pilot could do for the company is to say "If this is as it appears it is inexcusable and should not be tolerated by any of us. We are better than this and it is not representative of the way 99.99% of us do our jobs".

Simple.

do yourself a favor and don’t listen to this advice, he’s a FedEx pilot, and doesn’t deal with the flying public for a reason.

the most inflated “I know how to take care of it” egos are among the ranks at purple and he’s clueless. stick to the boxes dude.
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