Guess they must be confident that the 787 deliveries will start up by September and that age 67 is dead

IAH 787 CA 13
SFO 787 CA 10
DCA 777 CA 15
IAH 777 CA 10
SFO 777 CA 20

 

Actually, they’re not, and today’s CRU addresses that.

 

68 WB CA vacancies is huge. Currently 777 CA is down to CAL '06 - UAL '99. What will this vacancy bid bring it down to? We might see the 787 reach '06/'07 hires and the 777 down to '08 hires?

 

Even better, this is just to cover retirements. There will be some very large WB vacancy bids once the new 787s start arriving. Provided the economy holds up...

 

im usually an optimist but I think this bid stays north of 5000 maybe even 4000.

the WB CA bids have dried up since the new year, we are seeing new hire classes halted for 2 months and a delay in getting aircraft. I could see people claiming the seats they want for when the music stops. However…..it is summer training so who knows how badly people want their vacation…..

Now, the optimist side, The music isn’t going to stop but a lot of people think we are right at the edge of it if not already there.

 

Good point. Looking forward to the snapshots next week.

 

Yup. You could potentially see post merger new hires holding it in the next 2 years or so if Boeing can get their feces colocated.

 

In SFO maybe. IAH is going to go to 2000 seniority at the most and EWR is probably going to be around 3000. So 96 UAL or 98 CAL.

 

Not sure how "secondary vacancies" work in relation to the min/max page. Will we likely see NB FO vacancies on this first snapshot due to gaps left by the WB captains?

 

You'd only see secondary vacancies on a snapshot in a NBFO category if it drops below the min. Anything between min and max usually doesn't show up until the final if manpower planning elects to backfill above the min. So say CLE737FO has a min max of 50/60 and is staffed to 60 (I'm making numbers up because I'm too lazy to go look at what they actually are but the point remains). 11 FO's bid out on a snapshot so you'd see 1 unfilled vacancy to get to the min of 50. If 5 bid out on a snapshot you probably won't see any vacancies. Final award is up to whatever manpower planning decides as long as it falls between the 50/60 min/max.

The UPA 8C4a reference secondary vacancies have to do with training capacity. So if a current IAH777CA bids to SFO, they don't require training. Instead of a slot going unused they could award an additional vacancy over what's published to get someone into a training slot.