Hiring Minimums
#51
I took my enitre day to travel to Dallas specifically to speak with a United recruiter. I would have rathered recieve the full interaction as they advertised (they sent out an email with instructions on how to prepare for the event), rather than be shot down within a second of showing up.
don’t feel bad, in 2012-ish I traveled long and far to a Job Fair where Us Airways was only to be told the day of they wouldn’t be meeting with anyone or taking Resumes. It somehow became an “info session”. Then I was told by a nice young Delta Pilot that I should upgrade and become a Checkairmen” . She had no clue that I wasn’t an 8 year XJT F/O by choice. Was a wonderful experience (at the time I had 6,000hrs and like 4500-ish SIC 121 time. )
#52
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I went to RTAG in October
2,600 TT
1,100 121 turbine SIC
1,500 CFII
Prior mil (non aviation MOS)
Bachelors degree
When I handed the recuriter my resume, before I could even open my mouth to introduce myself, she looked right at my flight time and said that I am not looking competitive, and then told me that right now, competitive hiring minimums are 4,000 to 6,000 total time. I get that I missed the big regional FO hiring wave of last year. But I wish I would have at least been giving a chance to market myself at RTAG before being shut down .005 seconds into the job fair.
2,600 TT
1,100 121 turbine SIC
1,500 CFII
Prior mil (non aviation MOS)
Bachelors degree
When I handed the recuriter my resume, before I could even open my mouth to introduce myself, she looked right at my flight time and said that I am not looking competitive, and then told me that right now, competitive hiring minimums are 4,000 to 6,000 total time. I get that I missed the big regional FO hiring wave of last year. But I wish I would have at least been giving a chance to market myself at RTAG before being shut down .005 seconds into the job fair.
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In addition to that, have internal recs, do a meet the chief, and attend job fair expos to be more competitive and to accelerate the selection process.
and Yes, I had also heard from a captain who does interviews saying that 1600 tpic is now a realistical number thesedays to get a shot.
Last edited by united20; 11-21-2024 at 09:37 PM.
#54
But were there other companies that would have upgraded you sooner? At 1000 hours? Heck, even given you CA pay as a "near DEC"? Given you a new type rating and you'd already be collecting TPIC - both of which woukd have made you more attractive to a major? And at a higher salary to boot. OK, I understand some people may have had some checkride issues in the past and warned you to avoid "hazard" training events, but the only way to put those behind you quickly is to put successful events after them.
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I went to RTAG in October
2,600 TT
1,100 121 turbine SIC
1,500 CFII
Prior mil (non aviation MOS)
Bachelors degree
When I handed the recuriter my resume, before I could even open my mouth to introduce myself, she looked right at my flight time and said that I am not looking competitive, and then told me that right now, competitive hiring minimums are 4,000 to 6,000 total time. I get that I missed the big regional FO hiring wave of last year. But I wish I would have at least been giving a chance to market myself at RTAG before being shut down .005 seconds into the job fair.
2,600 TT
1,100 121 turbine SIC
1,500 CFII
Prior mil (non aviation MOS)
Bachelors degree
When I handed the recuriter my resume, before I could even open my mouth to introduce myself, she looked right at my flight time and said that I am not looking competitive, and then told me that right now, competitive hiring minimums are 4,000 to 6,000 total time. I get that I missed the big regional FO hiring wave of last year. But I wish I would have at least been giving a chance to market myself at RTAG before being shut down .005 seconds into the job fair.
”Wow that’s a lot of hours. My flight hours may not be competitive, but I believe in a whole person concept, here’s why I think the rest of my resume makes up for it...” Throw in a bit about overcoming adversity. Ask what else you’re maybe missing that can make up for some of the hours. They aren’t telling you no, they’re saying on the face of it you aren’t competitive, and that’s maybe poor form on their part, but they’ve not telling you to F off and apply again in 10 years. There’s more to getting hired than just flight hours. I would look at upgrading asap, union or safety or training opportunities, hell even some volunteer work or whatever because I guarantee you some folks are getting hired with less than that several thousand hours competitive mark.
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But were there other companies that would have upgraded you sooner? At 1000 hours? Heck, even given you CA pay as a "near DEC"? Given you a new type rating and you'd already be collecting TPIC - both of which woukd have made you more attractive to a major? And at a higher salary to boot. OK, I understand some people may have had some checkride issues in the past and warned you to avoid "hazard" training events, but the only way to put those behind you quickly is to put successful events after them.
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