I cant believe this guy is going to do three rug pulls back to back to back. Third one bitcoin reserve. Economy gonna hit hard. Social security is a ponzi scheme lol

 

Um yeah enjoy the ride! Eggs up, stock market down, preliminary GDP numbers looking dismal, and he has alienated every country but Russia, North Korea, Iran, and Hungary(axis of evil). 6 bankruptcies, where do you think we go next?

 

that’s right about eggs. I remember when trump ordered millions of egg laying chickens that take 8 months to replace. Trump did it on purpose. Sarcasm

 

this one always gets me. Some people were struggling, inflation for household goods was high. All this is true, but not for legacy airline pilots.

as a legacy pilot, you signed the most lucrative contract in history, you saw insane seniority movement, your equity in the stock market literally doubled, and your house price (if you already owned) nearly doubled as well.

I pray upper middle class airline pilots replicate the last 4 disastrous years under the new administration. I’m doubtful though.

Honestly I think people are just wrapped up in some weird alternate reality cult. Maybe if in the next 4 years their equity heavy nest egg takes a 30% hit it might snap them out of it? Even this might not break the hold.

I hope the green lines all over the economy keep lurching up and to the right regardless of who’s in charge.

 

It's evident on both sides( as seen in this thread) that for some people their political identity often take over even if they should know better per se.

Trying to go back to the purpose of this thread than general politics, as an example just after the UAL 777 Hawaii incident, someone who supposedly worked in TK wrote a letter to Tucker Carlson. Pretty much giving off a rant that is very similar to what that washington examiner article was citing from that captain with an agenda. Flying with a captain just after that segment aired and he watched it went off on a rant himself going it is ridiculous how it is right now citing among other things in that segment that UAL was hiring pilots right out of high school. You have someone that should know better and able to spot that statement in the letter was misleading bordering on complete BS because you need to be at least 21 to qualify for a restricted ATP at the bare minimum. So no there is no 18 year old fresh out of high school in any 121 cockpit let alone an UAL cockpit. But their political identity took over and since it fit his view on things, he fully believed it.

Of course reality being the fresh out of high school 18 year olds are being enticed/recruited to join UAL's and other airlines pilot pipeline programs where they start their training at 18 and work their way up to hopefully be at major airline.

 

All the result of the disastrous Biden Administration. Let the man cook. I told you to sit back and R-E-L-A-X. You’re brainwashed and TDS is a serious disease.

 

Your post makes no sense. It starts with an assumption, a wrong assumption, but an assumption none the less and that is the Biden Administration had something to do with our contracts. Nothing could be further from the truth. Why don’t you ask all the entry level pilots who cannot find a job right now how the industry is going for them? Or all the people furloughed at Spirit and Air Wisconsin, or the downgrades at JetBlue?

 

Yep, seems a certain news channel drilled it into the gullible that "times is tough" while fact is, inflation was covid(supply chain) generated, not specific to the USA, and entirely global. According to global economic analysis, the US economy was the gold standard coming out of this period. Yes, other countries were looking at us saying, "Why can't we be like them?".
And I ask this question to all who want to reinvent America - which country are we trying to model? What is this best example that we are aspiring to be? Is it Hungary? Russia? The former has the GDP of Alabama, the latter has 1/2 the GDP of "socialist California". So who are we trying to be like?

 

You implied “thing” were disastrous. They were not disastrous for legacy airline pilots by any metric whatsoever. The only tangible difference in my life is my salary doubled, my contract improved and my house and investments increased in value. My safe little suburban neighborhood and the schools are exactly as good as they have been for many decades.

You can say the Biden administration had nothing to do with it, which is probably true and which I didn’t imply at all.

How much were you touting the excellent (though not as good as the last 4 years) stock market under Trump 1.0? “How’s your 401k doing?” was a rebuttle for a lot of liberal complaints back then. You didn’t hear that very much the last four years.

The bottom line is it’s a team sport for you. Anything good that happens in the next 4 years you’ll argue that it’s because your team is in charge, anything bad you’re going to argue it’s a remnant of the “disastrous” prior administration.

To your point about the other pilot groups I said YES, it hasn’t been great for other people, especially those who don’t own their own home or have equity in the market.

 

Actually, the past couple of years, real (inflation adjusted) wages were up, & those improvements benefited low wage earners even more than high wage earners- meaning Americans had largely overcome inflation with low wage earners among those that benefited the most from Biden’s economic policies. People just couldn’t wrap their heads around it because the sticker shock of grocery items still felt out of control to them. IOW, you had a bunch of people freaking out about $1 worth of eggs costing $1.20 when they were actually making $1.25 to every dollar they used to make- putting them better off than they were before.

Both Trump & Harris lied to the public that they would bring prices back down to pre-pandemic levels. First of all they had no mechanism to do that & even if they did, that would be deflationary & damaging to the economy. What we should really want in an inflationary economy is for real wages to meet or exceed inflation & for inflation to slowly calm back down to around 2%-3%, all of which had actually happened before the election; but Americans are idiots who couldn’t stop obsessing over a $5 hamburger costing $8 (or whatever generic metric is meaningful to you. )

Biden wasn’t to blame for the global production shutdowns that caused inflation under his term any more than Trump is to blame for bird flu & the cost of eggs, but again, reference Americans & their comprehension of economic causes & effects. Both are responsible for the rampant spending of their administrations & Trump will own whatever comes of his obsession with tariffs & what appears to be a desire to pay for dollars in corporate tax breaks with pennies of DOGE savings- and potential slashing of social safety nets (otherwise town as Ponzi schemes) like Medicare & SocSec. But those impacts take time to reveal themselves- years in some cases & by the time we are reeling economically from the same, we savvy Americans will be calling for the heads of whatever administration happens to be in office at the time, whether connected to the root causes or not.