Can you reserve the JS at UAL?
#31
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So should I be doing the same when I list in the future?
You, as an OAL jumpseater, only has one listing. It puts you at the bottom of the standby list for both the jumpseat and for a cabin seat. If a cabin seat is available, it will be offered to you.
The issue is that when there are more non-revs than seats, a senior UA pilot has the choice of taking the jumpseat, and allowing another cabin seat for a non-rev, or taking the jumpseat, and allowing a lower-priority jumpseater to get on who wouldn't have cleared for a cabin seat. There is no policy as to which seat he should choose.
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Stop digging. You are already in a hole over your head due to your ignorance. (In case you're ESL, ignorance is not derogatory). It just means ask POLITE questions and try to understand as opposed to arguing from a position of inferior knowledge. JMHO
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Recently I (not a UA employee) was commuting with UA. As I was waiting for a seat, I was approached by a young pilot (one of them that grows a mustache to look older) who was there waiting along with his GF. He stated that I could have the JS and that he had been advised be the agent that he would be getting a seat in the cabin. This left me confused. Did the guy own the jumpseat i.e. does UA have some sort of reservation system. I understand that if the cabin is full he would get the JS first, but that he offered it to me as though it was his personal seat left me bewildered.
If its full its full, and surely that dude wouldn't have given up his JS offering it to me and I wouldn't have gotten on. It almost seemed as though I should be eternally grateful for the service he did to me... perhaps someone here can enlighten me on his train of thought...
If its full its full, and surely that dude wouldn't have given up his JS offering it to me and I wouldn't have gotten on. It almost seemed as though I should be eternally grateful for the service he did to me... perhaps someone here can enlighten me on his train of thought...
You can see it written all over his post he felt the guy was arrogant because he was at United. If he was offering the Jumpseat to you, he was likely just trying to help you out.
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He clearly didn't know you well enough to factor your personality into his choice or he would have taken the JS and left you behind.
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Im not sure I get all the abbreviations. must be a generational thing. Are you sporting a stash as well to look older?
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Recently I (not a UA employee) was commuting with UA. As I was waiting for a seat, I was approached by a young pilot (one of them that grows a mustache to look older) who was there waiting along with his GF. He stated that I could have the JS and that he had been advised be the agent that he would be getting a seat in the cabin. This left me confused. Did the guy own the jumpseat i.e. does UA have some sort of reservation system. I understand that if the cabin is full he would get the JS first, but that he offered it to me as though it was his personal seat left me bewildered.
If its full its full, and surely that dude wouldn't have given up his JS offering it to me and I wouldn't have gotten on. It almost seemed as though I should be eternally grateful for the service he did to me... perhaps someone here can enlighten me on his train of thought...
If its full its full, and surely that dude wouldn't have given up his JS offering it to me and I wouldn't have gotten on. It almost seemed as though I should be eternally grateful for the service he did to me... perhaps someone here can enlighten me on his train of thought...
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding this entirely. The way I’m used to you have a listing for any seat on the plane, all by seniority order. As a last resort, if the cabin is full, the jumpseat(s) get assigned, again in order of seniority (to people eligible for it). I’ve never heard of people being allowed to double list out of order etc. (and the carriers I’ve worked at are ALPA too) where I am from that’s frowned upon because you block several seats without ever actually using them.
If that’s possible at UA I can get his patronizing stance. He knew he was gonna get a seat in the back and was now offering his Jumpseat to me (even though it’s not even him deciding who gets it ultimately). Yes people can argue that he was doing me a solid, however imho it’s not the way it’s supposed to be. If you get a seat in the cabin you should take it and not mess up the system by listing for the JS only to give it to someone else at the last minute to stand there as a star.
If that’s possible at UA I can get his patronizing stance. He knew he was gonna get a seat in the back and was now offering his Jumpseat to me (even though it’s not even him deciding who gets it ultimately). Yes people can argue that he was doing me a solid, however imho it’s not the way it’s supposed to be. If you get a seat in the cabin you should take it and not mess up the system by listing for the JS only to give it to someone else at the last minute to stand there as a star.
Any of this sinking in yet? If not, maybe give another airline the opportunity to give you a free ride next time.
PS- when I’m trying to jumpseat on an offline carrier, I always appreciate when one of their pilots recognizes I’m a clueless offline jumpseater and gives me insight as to how they see the flight unfolding and what my chances are. I’m glad he recognized you as an offline jumpseater and offered you some assurance. Mustache or not.
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