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Old 05-05-2025 | 12:59 PM
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United is now telling customers to avoid Newark. What a mess!
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Old 05-05-2025 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
United is now telling customers to avoid Newark. What a mess!
I could have told them that when I was based there 18 years ago.
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Old 05-05-2025 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
I could have told them that when I was based there 18 years ago.
I live near Newark and do that. (Love area, hate EWR airport)
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Old 05-05-2025 | 02:48 PM
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We fly to EWR?
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Old 05-06-2025 | 02:47 AM
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It’s been a mess ever since the controllers were relocated to Philly. Add that and a runway closure, equipment failure and a staffing shortage and now it’s a disaster.

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Substitute Newark airport for planet earth….
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Old 05-06-2025 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
United is now telling customers to avoid Newark. What a mess!
It’s all part of his (Kirby) plan you see……get them to think JFK………..then his acquisition of JetBlue will make even more sense.
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Old 05-06-2025 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
I live near Newark and do that. (Love area, hate EWR airport)
The problem with EWR is LGA…….meaning there is only one side for radar downwind. The problem with LGA is EWR and JFK in that there is little room for WX deviations on similar directional stars…which will cause them to meter volume on said star……The problem with JFK is well there are many problems but departing 31L…or arriving on the Kingston or Lendy you ATC has to corkscrew you up or down……very inefficient.

All three airports are run by the same lovely organization (PANYNJ) but they are effectively competing with one another another as their tenants are competitors with each other.

All the problems could be fixed by all three airports closing, or massively reducing their arrival capacity ….and build an artificial island west of Sandy Hook and Staten Island (12 DME 193r JFK 115.9) kind of like what they have in Korea for ICN. Accessibility by high speed rail from 5 line (2 from NJT, LIRR, MTA, and even Metro North)…..that way you can have two runway simultaneous departures, and two runways for simultaneous arrivals…

We all know this will never happen

Sound like a stupid dream…..well it also sounds dumb when we act surprised when issues like this week arise as they are very predictable, so I choose to not get angry about it.
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Old 05-06-2025 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
I could have told them that when I was based there 18 years ago.
I've always called it "Manure-Ick".
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Old 05-06-2025 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
All the problems could be fixed by all three airports closing, or massively reducing their arrival capacity ….and build an artificial island west of Sandy Hook and Staten Island (12 DME 193r JFK 115.9) kind of like what they have in Korea for ICN. Accessibility by high speed rail from 5 line (2 from NJT, LIRR, MTA, and even Metro North)…..that way you can have two runway simultaneous departures, and two runways for simultaneous arrivals…
You need to cut down your caffeine.
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Old 05-06-2025 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
All the problems could be fixed by all three airports closing, or massively reducing their arrival capacity ….and build an artificial island west of Sandy Hook and Staten Island (12 DME 193r JFK 115.9) kind of like what they have in Korea for ICN. Accessibility by high speed rail from 5 line (2 from NJT, LIRR, MTA, and even Metro North)…..that way you can have two runway simultaneous departures, and two runways for simultaneous arrivals…

We all know this will never happen
But where would the windmills go then?
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