SFO incident today
06-01-2025 | 02:47 PM
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Well, this isn't a good look.
Our guys were departing 1R on the Trukn, but instead of turning right, turned left...which placed them right in front of a Skywest RJ, which was departing 1L on the Stikk. 😵💫
https://youtu.be/lOpRf0IeGAo?si=dvb93kq78WyH0Cia
Probably be a few months before we get to read the FSI findings...
Our guys were departing 1R on the Trukn, but instead of turning right, turned left...which placed them right in front of a Skywest RJ, which was departing 1L on the Stikk. 😵💫
https://youtu.be/lOpRf0IeGAo?si=dvb93kq78WyH0Cia
Probably be a few months before we get to read the FSI findings...
06-01-2025 | 06:57 PM
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When was the last time you flew opposite of the FD? Try that in the sim? People usually fly it as the guy correct what’s wrong.
06-01-2025 | 07:12 PM
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Not following the FD guidance? It happens often - wrong fix entered, wrong heading, wrong direction of turn. It's not a once in a lifetime event. It's at least monthly that the MCP gets mis-set. Most guys don't just chase the FD's, they realize 'that's not what we want to do' and either they, or the PM, call it out OR the PM is already fixing it.
"People usually fly it as the guy corrects what's wrong." Yes, if a more benign event. If you know it's wrong why continue flying the FD's? This was a 'big one' that rang a lot of bells.
06-01-2025 | 07:29 PM
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Often times I fly through the FD…. Sometimes it’s on… But I am on the guppy and only flown Boeings and CRJs, I can’t comment on the Airbus FD.
06-01-2025 | 09:01 PM
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Today actually, the FD was trying to have me pitch down while in VNAV SPD when I was holding my speed with my pitch attitude… The FD eventually came up to my pitch attitude I was holding…
Often times I fly through the FD…. Sometimes it’s on… But I am on the guppy and only flown Boeings and CRJs, I can’t comment on the Airbus FD.
Often times I fly through the FD…. Sometimes it’s on… But I am on the guppy and only flown Boeings and CRJs, I can’t comment on the Airbus FD.
I feel like I had to do this occasionally in the Embraer but for less often…
06-01-2025 | 10:57 PM
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Today actually, the FD was trying to have me pitch down while in VNAV SPD when I was holding my speed with my pitch attitude… The FD eventually came up to my pitch attitude I was holding…
Often times I fly through the FD…. Sometimes it’s on… But I am on the guppy and only flown Boeings and CRJs, I can’t comment on the Airbus FD.
Often times I fly through the FD…. Sometimes it’s on… But I am on the guppy and only flown Boeings and CRJs, I can’t comment on the Airbus FD.
Of course all this is a total guess, but if I was a betting man…
06-02-2025 | 06:30 AM
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06-02-2025 | 06:50 AM
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06-02-2025 | 08:01 AM
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Wrong SID/RWY or not the most glaring loss of SA is Turing into another aircraft. Skywest launched almost at the same time off of 1L. How can you not realize another aircraft is right behind you?
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