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Old 07-11-2025 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CaseTractor
I don’t know where to find it, but they are familiar. A coffee and that question to a gate agent should yield the answer. It’s their controlling document and they are the ones who make the call.
The Captain makes the call on the jumpseat, not the gate agent.

wintips.ual.com is available to all UAL employees. It has the jumpseat priority tables for all combinations of jumpseater and operating carrier. UX pilots should have their own reference through their employer.

On a non-exclusive UX carrier, own-metal pilots are first, of course. The rest of the UX and UA pilots are grouped together by time of check-in.
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Old 07-11-2025 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
The Captain makes the call on the jumpseat, not the gate agent.
Just to be clear, are you saying it’s the prerogative of the captain to disregard contractual language or company policy as to who gets the jumpseat?
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Old 07-11-2025 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by UhhhKhakis
Hey everyone, I promise I searched for this before I posted. As far as the jumpseat priority goes on mainline for UAX pilots (non United exclusive carriers), does it go by check in time, or does it go by employee seniority? Thank you for the help!
For United mainline pilots jumpseating on express carriers its first come first serve obviously behind that express carriers own pilots.

so I can be clear as mud:

That express carriers pilot are first in whatever order their company allows

Then United in order of check in time. Seniority is not a factor. (I know because I checked in before a senior dude and got the JS and he was ****ed. lol)

Not sure about other offline pilots but that’s something to check your company’s manual.
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Old 07-11-2025 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Just to be clear, are you saying it’s the prerogative of the captain to disregard contractual language or company policy as to who gets the jumpseat?
The Captain, with certain exceptions (FAA, line check, etc.) has the authority to accept or deny a pilot’s request to occupy the jumpseat. I didn’t see anyone mention disregarding policy. But if you arrive with the notion that you’re entitled a ride because of your employer, seniority, or check in time, I caution you to not share that notion with the Captain.
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Old 07-11-2025 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sl0wr0ll3r
The Captain, with certain exceptions (FAA, line check, etc.) has the authority to accept or deny a pilot’s request to occupy the jumpseat. I didn’t see anyone mention disregarding policy. But if you arrive with the notion that you’re entitled a ride because of your employer, seniority, or check in time, I caution you to not share that notion with the Captain.
The post I quoted was responding to another post that said, in essence, “Have a chat with a gate agent and see what their policy says.”

I took the response to that as “It’s the captain’s decision what the priority is.”

Maybe I just read too far into it. I absolutely agree with what you said.
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Old 07-11-2025 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TechTanker
For United mainline pilots jumpseating on express carriers its first come first serve obviously behind that express carriers own pilots.

so I can be clear as mud:

That express carriers pilot are first in whatever order their company allows

Then United in order of check in time. Seniority is not a factor. (I know because I checked in before a senior dude and got the JS and he was ****ed. lol)

Not sure about other offline pilots but that’s something to check your company’s manual.
All this is 100% incorrect. It depends on what UAX carrier is operating the flight as to whether it’s check-in time (w/in 12 hours) or seniority for the mainline pilots. Obviously a UAX pilot jumpseating on their own metal will get priority over mainline.
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Old 07-11-2025 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sofarup
This hits different these days. lol
Ain’t that the truth…. Lol
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Old 07-11-2025 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CaseTractor
It’s a good question and no you won’t have access to the FOM, nor will it have the answer.
For those with access to United’s FOM, it absolutely does have the answer on 10.60.1. There’s literally a link to it on page 1. Time to redo your open book CQDL quiz…
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Old 07-11-2025 | 12:33 PM
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You got me, it surely does. I’ve not taken it yet this trimester to be fair, and when I do, I try to do it open book.

to the guy talking about CA’s final authority, of course they have final authority and no one is disputing that. I think everyone is just trying to help a guy figure out how the rules work being off line. Generally the gate agent is an excellent resource to learn that stuff as they are the forward facing part of that process. Wingtips is their thing and it should jive with our FOM apparently.
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Old 07-11-2025 | 02:13 PM
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It’s simple. I start by asking the prospective jumpseater if they’ve ever meowed on guard. Unless they’re on the scab list. Then they just get an immediate no.
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