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Old 10-09-2025 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
What part of being an OAL employee ISN'T getting across?

Sorry, where does it say WE can't buy a fully refundable full fare ticket on ANOTHER AIRLINE and comply with the the OTHER AIRLINE's policy on the refund, then use a ZED/ID?
Nowhere. But it does say that they can take your benefits and more away if they suspect you are trying to break the rules. So if it is not black and white allowed, I would not do it. That is all I said. You do you.

"Misuse of pass travel privileges – by you or your pass
riders – could mean big problems for you, including
disciplinary action and/or suspension or termination
of your travel privileges. Employees can even lose
their jobs based on abuse of pass travel privileges."
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Old 10-09-2025 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Nowhere. But it does say that they can take your benefits and more away if they suspect you are trying to break the rules. So if it is not black and white allowed, I would not do it. That is all I said. You do you.
It's not "me doing me", it's the guy starting the thread. As well as OTHERS that have posted here advocating the SAME THING.

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"Misuse of pass travel privileges – by you or your pass
riders – could mean big problems for you, including
disciplinary action and/or suspension or termination
of your travel privileges. Employees can even lose
their jobs based on abuse of pass travel privileges."
Sure, that would be a hard sell since what you quoted doesn't SPECIFICALLY state such.
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Old 10-09-2025 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
It's not "me doing me", it's the guy starting the thread. As well as OTHERS that have posted here advocating the SAME THING.



Sure, that would be a hard sell since what you quoted doesn't SPECIFICALLY state such.
You have to look at the specific full agreement between United and the OP’s carrier, but I’ll guarantee you the prohibition is in there.
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Old 10-09-2025 | 11:48 AM
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Nowhere. But it does say that they can take your benefits and more away if they suspect you are trying to break the rules. So if it is not black and white allowed, I would not do it. That is all I said. You do you.

"Misuse of pass travel privileges – by you or your pass
riders – could mean big problems for you, including
disciplinary action and/or suspension or termination
of your travel privileges. Employees can even lose
their jobs based on abuse of pass travel privileges."
Originally Posted by John Carr
It's not "me doing me", it's the guy starting the thread. As well as OTHERS that have posted here advocating the SAME THING.
Sure, that would be a hard sell since what you quoted doesn't SPECIFICALLY state such.
Brother. It is a privilege, not a right. Show me where it SPECIFICALLY says you can sue them to have your benefits/job reinstated.
OTHERS can say the SAME THING all day long. But they did not quote anything that supported their view.

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It is standard boilerplate on bilateral Zed reciprocal agreements. You would have to look at the specific full agreement terms, not the summary on FT to find out the exact wording. The only one I was able to find easily was the AA-UA one that explicitly says that you cannot do this.
This guy did his homework. I suggest you do the same. Again, all I did was suggest to thread lightly.
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Old 10-09-2025 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Show me where it SPECIFICALLY says you can sue them to have your benefits/job reinstated.
OTHERS can say the SAME THING all day long. But they did not quote anything that supported their view.
Who said anything about suing? Jesus.......

Also, I've know people that violated pass travel policies in some form or fashion, it DIDN'T result in termination, simply suspension of privileges for a set period of time. Spare the dramatics....

All I was asking for is if there was specific verbiage.

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Again, all I did was suggest to thread lightly.
I don't sew or do needle work, etc. But, "you do you....."
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Old 10-09-2025 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Who said anything about suing? Jesus.......

Also, I've know people that violated pass travel policies in some form or fashion, it DIDN'T result in termination, simply suspension of privileges for a set period of time. Spare the dramatics....

All I was asking for is if there was specific verbiage.
I don't sew or do needle work, etc. But, "you do you....."
You sure got me on the extra H (but appropriate with the suing vs sewing, lol).

No, that definitely wasn't all you were asking for. You were calling me out on having an opinion, doubled down twice, and never responded to the guy who already answered the question before your first reply. Thanks for joining my TED talk, I am out.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...es/3102781002/

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Old 10-09-2025 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
No, that definitely wasn't all you were asking for. You were calling me out on having an opinion, doubled down twice, and never responded to the guy who already answered the question before your first reply. Thanks for joining my TED talk, I am out.
Not really, again, stop with the dramatics and playing the victim.

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Kind of apples to oranges. That story is about a case so blatantly glaring abuse.

FWIW, one of the people I mentioned did similar, didn't lose his job
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