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Old 02-13-2026 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
Probably implies that we are not taking in the alleged 2000+ new hires. Probably 1600 as has been circulated.

Also it’s fewer. Not less. Fewer.
"We" is an interesting term considering that you just said you didn't have access to the bid because you don't work at United.
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Old 02-13-2026 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WXS15
"We" is an interesting term considering that you just said you didn't have access to the bid because you don't work at United.
That changes in a couple weeks bud. Stay mad.
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Old 02-13-2026 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
CRU is out, it’s a good read
TLDR? Thanks!
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Old 02-13-2026 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
TLDR? Thanks!
internal company document. not for folks that don’t even have a cjo
Old 02-13-2026 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
Probably implies that we are not taking in the alleged 2000+ new hires. Probably 1600 as has been circulated.

Also it’s fewer. Not less. Fewer.
"We"??? For the love of God please drop the act and go away...
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Old 02-14-2026 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
Probably implies that we are not taking in the alleged 2000+ new hires. Probably 1600 as has been circulated.
This bid is 905 CA and FO positions. Between the November and December bids and this one its over 2,000 bid positions total. Many of those FO bids will be recycled for new hires. We would have to stop having vacancies completely it not have to hire 2,000+ pilots this year.
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Old 02-14-2026 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Told y’all they were going to plus up 756 CAs equal to the displacements on the east coast……the planes aren’t going away the flying is just being moved.
It was written in the displacement bid summary that they were going to do this. We can't have displacements and vacancy bids simultaneously so they waited for the displacements and now a bid. What will be interesting is how many more NBCA bids with backfills since there are so many WB and 756 CA on this bid.
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Old 02-14-2026 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kangs
One thing that still has me puzzled is that there are much less NBCA spots than are new hires filling the ranks this year (supposedly). Not saying it’s not a lot, but seems less. Any insight into that yet?
SFO and EWR FO positions are just a plug for new hire purposes. Look at prior vacancy bids. Do you think that the precise man power planning yields 100 every single time for those bases? They could have easily put in 500. It does t cost anything and doesn’t mean that they need to hire to those numbers - it’s just a $0 call option.
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Old 02-14-2026 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
CRU is out, it’s a good read
Just make sure you believe half of it and learn to read between the lines on everything else

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
everyone who knows how all this works is not surprised. Anyone who didn’t see it coming read the updated back in NOV to literally and incorrectly.
We are a quickly growing company there’s going to be narrowbody CA bids constantly there just might only be 10 instead of several hundred.
Glad it was a lot more than 10... Looks like just under 200 if you include the 756 as narrowbody (pay)...

Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
It was written in the displacement bid summary that they were going to do this. We can't have displacements and vacancy bids simultaneously so they waited for the displacements and now a bid. What will be interesting is how many more NBCA bids with backfills since there are so many WB and 756 CA on this bid.
I don't think I've seen a bid this diverse in the past few years. Good times right now, lots of options. Hopefully the music continues.

Originally Posted by kangs
One thing that still has me puzzled is that there are much less NBCA spots than are new hires filling the ranks this year (supposedly). Not saying it’s not a lot, but seems less. Any insight into that yet?
They can get NBCA much quicker than a new NBFO training-wise. The time it takes to offer the FO slots and get a new hire trained adds up. Plus then they need another NBFO when they make a NBCA, so it's like they need 2 NBFO for every new NBCA that represents a fleet expansion position. (One the replace the upgrading FO, and another one to sit in the FO seat.)
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Old 02-14-2026 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
SFO and EWR FO positions are just a plug for new hire purposes. Look at prior vacancy bids. Do you think that the precise man power planning yields 100 every single time for those bases? They could have easily put in 500. It does t cost anything and doesn’t mean that they need to hire to those numbers - it’s just a $0 call option.
You are correct.

Its just like when every category they want to limit backfills to has a min of exactly 5 less than current staffing and people come on here and claim those categories are "shrinking". Like we can be only overstaffed by multiples of 5 in every category.
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