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Old 03-30-2026 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
That's not quite true. If a pilot submits _any_ reserve bids, it can be awarded, even if they can hold a line.
You guys/gals expect the FAs to embrace PBS when even the few pilots on this thread can't agree on a basic premise/working of PBS
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Old 03-30-2026 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
That's not quite true. If a pilot submits _any_ reserve bids, it can be awarded, even if they can hold a line.
that is correct. If you put a RSV bid in above the Gline you run the risk of getting it. But if you don’t have a RSV bid in from the Gline up you WILL get a line.
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Old 03-30-2026 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
That's a fair point. At present it seems like acquisition of anything, regional or major, carries a lot of financial risk. But long term, I'd think that the company isn't looking to reduce its profitability. What do you see as the pros/cons of a wholly owned vs outsourced right now?
Beyond the obvious? Wholly owned, payroll , maintenance, benefits all fall on us. Outsourced? Pay a pre negotiated flat fee , not a dime more and fuel is negotiated as well.
if some of the routes aren’t profitable, operating at a loss , direct affect on bottom line numbers .
Who they would buy ? I don’t know, maybe commutair since they already own a portion of them , just buy them completely I guess . But if Kirby put that clause in there , it’s there for a reason.

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Old 03-30-2026 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
You guys/gals expect the FAs to embrace PBS when even the few pilots on this thread can't agree on a basic premise/working of PBS
Exactly. Seems noone knows exactly how it works….different at every carrier…and prob slowly evolves at the carriers whim whether contractual or not...how could you tell if you don't know how it works in the 1st place

PBS is like ole black magic. 🤣🤣
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Old 03-30-2026 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
Seems noone knows exactly how it works….different at every carrier.
PBS works differently at other carriers mainly because the pilot contracts are different. Also, there are people who actually know how it works here but, as usual, they're drowned out by the loudest crew room "experts" who don't even know how to bid, let alone how their bid is processed.

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Old 03-30-2026 | 09:58 AM
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Rising tide? I wish the best for the UAL FAs. My wife spoke with the cabin crew at length last fall during a Euro flight (she’s SWA).

FAs at SWA have line bidding as well. Plus, there is no restriction on putting money on trips to give them away, no flight minimums per month (they keep insurance and travel benefits as well).

They voted in (81%) a four year contract with a 22.3% pay raise with retro and step increases, increased holiday pay, paid maternity/parental leave and some other stuff I can’t remember. My wife voted no for the record.

PBS was not in it. Are there any airlines where FAs use PBS?
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Old 03-30-2026 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Rising tide? I wish the best for the UAL FAs. My wife spoke with the cabin crew at length last fall during a Euro flight (she’s SWA).

FAs at SWA have line bidding as well. Plus, there is no restriction on putting money on trips to give them away, no flight minimums per month (they keep insurance and travel benefits as well).

They voted in (81%) a four year contract with a 22.3% pay raise with retro and step increases, increased holiday pay, paid maternity/parental leave and some other stuff I can’t remember. My wife voted no for the record.

PBS was not in it. Are there any airlines where FAs use PBS?
Delta FAs do, but they surely didn't get to vote it in.....
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Old 03-30-2026 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OFFCOURSE
Well owning a regional can be a cash cow or it could be financial disaster. Regardless, if this is what their plans are, it will definitely affect profits at some point.
Well, you can’t wholly own that regional unless pilots on the United SL are staffing it, so I don’t think this is likely.
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Old 03-30-2026 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Well, you can’t wholly own that regional unless pilots on the United SL are staffing it, so I don’t think this is likely.

If it’s in there it’s in there for a reason. Could be something like buying commute air and adding their pilots to our list . Just spit balling: idk if there’s much demand for their current fleet though
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Old 03-30-2026 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
If it’s in there it’s in there for a reason. Could be something like buying commute air and adding their pilots to our list . Just spit balling: idk if there’s much demand for their current fleet though
my lizard brain tells me that opening up our contract to do so and adding pilots to our seniority list and a much greater cost, wouldn’t make sense financially.
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