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HE2019 04-16-2026 11:45 AM

I’m came from the military side and still relatively new to the 121 world, so maybe I’m missing something. I get that a UA/JB merger is probably unlikely, and I understand seniority integrations are complicated and messy.

What I don’t fully understand is why so many seem so certain that post-covid UA hires would be the ones who get hit the hardest.

I’ve been at United about five years now, and I keep hearing that narrative, but I haven’t heard a clear explanation for it. I know mergers are complex and nothing is guaranteed, but why is there so much confidence that the post-Covid UA group would take the biggest hit? Thanks.

FlyPanAm 04-16-2026 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by HE2019 (Post 4024230)
I’m came from the military side and still relatively new to the 121 world, so maybe I’m missing something. I get that a UA/JB merger is probably unlikely, and I understand seniority integrations are complicated and messy.

What I don’t fully understand is why so many seem so certain that post-covid UA hires would be the ones who get hit the hardest.

I’ve been at United about five years now, and I keep hearing that narrative, but I haven’t heard a clear explanation for it. I know mergers are complex and nothing is guaranteed, but why is there so much confidence that the post-Covid UA group would take the biggest hit? Thanks.

There is absolutely no reason to assume that the post-COVID UA group would take the biggest hit in a UA/JB merger.

My guess is that these people mean UA not merging and organically growing would be better for UA pilots hired the last 5 years.

RippinClapBombs 04-16-2026 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 4024166)
My apologies, have a great day.

You don’t need to apologize for anything. I’m speculating as well. I don’t believe for a second both Delta and American won’t gain territory in BOS/NYC at a much cheaper price—plain and simple. Spin it how you want to favor the best possible outcome for JB, but UA is not the only carrier that has admitted in their earning calls they want more territory in the NE.

11atsomto 04-16-2026 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 4024147)
UA/AA would be an Aeroflot fantasy.

Naah judging by the few guys I know who work there...I think it would more likely involve the cabin crews of Singapore, EVA or Cathay

ThumbsUp 04-16-2026 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by HE2019 (Post 4024230)
I’m came from the military side and still relatively new to the 121 world, so maybe I’m missing something. I get that a UA/JB merger is probably unlikely, and I understand seniority integrations are complicated and messy.

What I don’t fully understand is why so many seem so certain that post-covid UA hires would be the ones who get hit the hardest.

I’ve been at United about five years now, and I keep hearing that narrative, but I haven’t heard a clear explanation for it. I know mergers are complex and nothing is guaranteed, but why is there so much confidence that the post-Covid UA group would take the biggest hit? Thanks.


It would be bad for the senior NB folks as well.

KnightNight 04-16-2026 08:00 PM

I’m not an expert but United would have to pay a premium on JetBlue stock to purchase them, then add in at least 9 billion in debt (increasing) as well just to get what they want which is jfk slots? I don’t know how much slots go for but I know a billion dollars is a lot of mullah. Not to mention all the other costs that will rack up

ClappedOut145 04-17-2026 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 4024373)
I’m not an expert but United would have to pay a premium on JetBlue stock to purchase them, then add in at least 9 billion in debt (increasing) as well just to get what they want which is jfk slots? I don’t know how much slots go for but I know a billion dollars is a lot of mullah. Not to mention all the other costs that will rack up

Not if you drive them into bankruptcy, wipe out a large portion of debt, and then buy the pieces in a 363 sale.

HwkrPlt 04-17-2026 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 4024202)
Stop listening cause one of the hosts and former management shrill pumps for Single Pilots Ops any chance he can get.

Really? Which episodes?

FriendlyPilot 04-17-2026 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 4024373)
I’m not an expert but United would have to pay a premium on JetBlue stock to purchase them, then add in at least 9 billion in debt (increasing) as well just to get what they want which is jfk slots? I don’t know how much slots go for but I know a billion dollars is a lot of mullah. Not to mention all the other costs that will rack up

Plus no widebody planes and the largest hub they have is just 30 miles from United's largest gateway to Europe.

I don't know what JetBlue's fate is going to be, but its not going to be an all out purchase or majority purchase by United. Maybe some asset purchases (slots etc) but not enough to pass the 50% threshold that would trigger seniority integration.

Bluediver 04-17-2026 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 4024507)
Plus no widebody planes and the largest hub they have is just 30 miles from United's largest gateway to Europe.

I don't know what JetBlue's fate is going to be, but it’s not going to be an all out purchase or majority purchase by United. Maybe some asset purchases (slots etc) but not enough to pass the 50% threshold that would trigger seniority integration.

This again? This isn’t how it works. You are not even trying to quote actual federal law. You are posting wrong information and changing the law to fit your narrative.


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