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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 4024147)
Agreed, UA/AA would be an Aeroflot fantasy scenario giving the combined carrier incredible pricing power. Even if the US approved it there would be enormous ripple effects globally (TATL JVs, alliances, etc) and I am not sure Europe would be in the mood to play along.
UA/JB would give the next best bang for the buck, allowing UA to increase pricing power in the BOS/JFK areas in particular and further pushing AA into irrelevance. AA/AS would be a smart combo, and the AS mgmt team could likely turn things around better than Isom has. |
Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
(Post 4024152)
No not really. United would be “taking one for the team” essentially. UA/JB would have to give up slots in BOS/JFK/EWR to AA and DL (organic growth is significantly cheaper). The big 3 together would gain pricing power.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 4024158)
BOS does not have slots, no divestitures there. UA isn't giving up anything in EWR. Divest 80 slots in JFK still leaves UA with ~100 which is plenty. DL wouldn't be allowed to bid considering they are the largest carrier, AA can't even use the JFK slots they already have so I can't see them buying more. That leaves AS, WN, F9, NK, MX types which might be interested.
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
(Post 4023721)
Agree its only downside from a pilot perspective considering the profit sharing hit as well as the seniority integration, even with a fence, especially for anyone hired after 2020. Fortunately in 5 years I'll be gone and I won't have to deal with it, but anyone with less than 6 years longevity (9,000 pilots) would have a rude awakening.
Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI
(Post 4023759)
plus the fact that quite a few B6ers went to UA in the last 9 years, who would now be junior to folks that they were senior to at B6.
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
(Post 4024160)
LOL no chance, you’re just making sh*t up. Just apply to United. Wishful thinking is a terrible strategy.
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
(Post 4024165)
so I am one of those folks......but that was my decision and mine (plus family) alone nobody forced me to do that. So I really should be held accountable for that decision however detrimental to my career progression it may be.
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
(Post 4024160)
LOL no chance, you’re just making sh*t up. Just apply to United. Wishful thinking is a terrible strategy.
EWR, United would be required to give up B6 gates and takeoff/landing times…. JFK - United would offer up JFK slots to divestitures to satisfy the DOJ and keep a good handful of them…. Delta wouldn’t be able to bid for them. AA might but doubt it, Breeze, F9, Southwest would all be able to advocate for those slots freely. But we will see as there is precedent that EWR and LGA/JFK were considered as separate markets in previous cases. If there was to be a UA/B6 merger, this is the likely scenario that will play out. |
Originally Posted by 11atsomto
(Post 4024165)
so I am one of those folks......but that was my decision and mine (plus family) alone nobody forced me to do that. So I really should be held accountable for that decision however detrimental to my career progression it may be.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 4024063)
https://podcastaddict.com/the-air-sh...sode/221760517
Good perspectives covering the UA merger landscape |
Originally Posted by Swakid8
(Post 4024189)
They aren’t wrong… BOS isn’t slot restricted…
EWR, United would be required to give up B6 gates and takeoff/landing times…. JFK - United would offer up JFK slots to divestitures to satisfy the DOJ and keep a good handful of them…. Delta wouldn’t be able to bid for them. AA might but doubt it, Breeze, F9, Southwest would all be able to advocate for those slots freely. But we will see as there is precedent that EWR and LGA/JFK were considered as separate markets in previous cases. If there was to be a UA/B6 merger, this is the likely scenario that will play out. |
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