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rickair7777 05-03-2026 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by MiracleMets (Post 4031304)
The new 737 FM specifically removed the guidance to go three red one white on a short field landing and its about time. I wonder how many guys will go "nope, im still doing three red one white!". Land in the touchdown zone with brakes MAX, morons...you will be fine.

Our SOP still allows Medium Rare for short fields, I'm good with it.

I don't like 4 red because you don't know if you're at 4 red or 7 red.

MiracleMets 05-03-2026 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4031341)
Our SOP still allows Medium Rare for short fields, I'm good with it.

I don't like 4 red because you don't know if you're at 4 red or 7 red.

I think we can agree 4 red is pretty dumb.

JoeBlo 05-03-2026 06:36 PM

What in the DEi is going on.....

Maybe less emphasis on gender and sexual orientation and more emphasis on flying the airplane...

Sonny Crockett 05-03-2026 06:41 PM

The whole RWY 29 is one forking GOAT ROPE! I actually prefer doing it in a 777 but the 737-900 it can get rather sporty! Heck I remember in the old J-32 that whole RWY 29 was also a goat rope! Can't believe after 30+ years they can fix it and make it a straight in ILS. No defended anyone who ducked in and hit a light pole but this was so predictable and surprising its never happened before......

ShyGuy 05-03-2026 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4031341)
Our SOP still allows Medium Rare for short fields, I'm good with it.

I don't like 4 red because you don't know if you're at 4 red or 7 red.


True. How many people actually read the chart notes where it says glidepath and VGSI not coincident, PAPI crosses 70 ft above threshold.

I brief it. It’s important for some places like Vegas. Some people try to keep 2 white and 2 red and cross the threshold high. Stay on the ILS GS itself, and you’re fine. We say 3 red 1 white as medium rare, but for every approach with that not coincident note, you’re actually coming in 50 ft above the threshold.

ShyGuy 05-03-2026 06:49 PM

81-90% of airline pilots are white, a career field dominated historically from literally its entire existence. Where did minorities hurt you?


What an embarrassment blaming “DEI”

dsevo 05-03-2026 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by JFS 3 (Post 4031317)
You're such a clown. How's that AA profit sharing check this year? Use it for something nice like a new pair of shoes?

What a DB. Fyi, I had no problem making up my PS in January…

elps 05-03-2026 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett (Post 4031371)
The whole RWY 29 is one forking GOAT ROPE! I actually prefer doing it in a 777 but the 737-900 it can get rather sporty! Heck I remember in the old J-32 that whole RWY 29 was also a goat rope! Can't believe after 30+ years they can fix it and make it a straight in ILS. No defended anyone who ducked in and hit a light pole but this was so predictable and surprising its never happened before......

The fix to get a straight-in approach to 29 at EWR is to close LGA. Not happening. If you let the autopilot fly the RNP approach it will take you to 500 feet, runway heading, on the glidepath, that should be good enough.

Macjet 05-03-2026 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by JoeBlo (Post 4031370)
What in the DEi is going on.....

Maybe less emphasis on gender and sexual orientation and more emphasis on flying the airplane...

In almost three decades inside lots of aircraft I've had more issues with white males than 'DEI' pilots, by sheer number or percentage, with ex-Navy rotor being at the absolute very top of the scare the frosting sauce out of me. Your comment is ignorant and I doubt based in any fact or statistic.

ugleeual 05-03-2026 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by dang (Post 4031311)
landed just after them. Heard an ops vehicle, looking for Fod on the runway. They said they heard a bang and now there’s a hole in the airplane. Tower thought it was because of Fod on the runway. Just gusty winds landing 29.

speed tape… no problem.


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