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drywhitetoast 05-04-2026 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4031525)
How does 29 not have a displaced threshold???

Displaced into what? I-95?

Smooth at FL450 05-04-2026 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 4031534)
Displaced into what? I-95?

You should think about what you wrote…maybe look at the displaced thresholds on 22 for reference?

11atsomto 05-04-2026 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 4031490)
76-4’s went in there daily without hitting light poles.

We never hit light poles until we hit one…..

I know nothing of highway light specifications…but I’m gonna guess they haven’t gotten shorter.
Agree that thousands of successful approaches every year are accomplished and this is rare……but were you suprised?

The response of this can’t just be “Well I guess you just gottta be a pilot”

drywhitetoast 05-04-2026 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4031537)
You should think about what you wrote…

I know exactly what I wrote. I was being facetious. How are you going to displace a 6700ft runway. It would make it almost unusable to air carriers.

Smooth at FL450 05-04-2026 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 4031542)
I know exactly what I wrote. I was being facetious. How are you going to displace a 6700ft runway. It would make it almost unusable to air carriers.

That would be the point. 6000’ is still plenty for a narrow body…FedEx operates into BUR daily.

JediCheese 05-04-2026 06:49 AM

I hate the 29/11 approaches. I'm not a Texan but when I pull out my cowboy hat and start saying "let's do some of this pilot stuff" or "Yee Haw!" the threats are very real.

The only real solution is burying the I-95 and US-9. Unfortunately it's NJ so even the federal government can't afford the graft on a project of that magnitude.

drywhitetoast 05-04-2026 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4031546)
That would be the point. 6000’ is still plenty for a narrow body…FedEx operates into BUR daily.

There we go. That's the answer. Let's take a challenging short runway that we already fvk up landings and make it shorter. 👍

JackReacher 05-04-2026 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4031525)
How does 29 not have a displaced threshold???

If you look at the airport diagram, RW29 is displaced by maybe 200 feet max.

JackReacher 05-04-2026 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 4031492)
Really, wow. That's high (not that it makes it much harder). Maybe it's just the Airbus, but landing on 29 never seemed to be that big of a deal and both the RNAV overlays for the visual and now the RNAV W have sure made it easier. I do think there is a psychological effect caused by it only being 6700' that makes people want to shift to a shorter aimpoint on final, ignoring that in recent years we are typically only landing there with a significant headwind.

Yeah I flew the Bus for 8 years and 29 was a “non-event” really. The guppy with its 2-axis autopilot is pathetic really.

khergan 05-04-2026 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 4031557)
Yeah I flew the Bus for 8 years and 29 was a “non-event” really. The guppy with its 2-axis autopilot is pathetic really.

Or you know, you could just fly the jet. Almost like we get paid to know how to do this without FiFi holding your hand or doing it for you.


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