UAL Training Question
07-14-2010 | 11:36 AM
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I agree that the job-share guys are much more realistic and easier to get along with. However, I've been around over 24 years and remember when the scabs were hiding in the training center and the check rides were contentious. When we got away from appendix h and went to an AQP style Proficiency Checks, thats when the SC's became adversarial. I wrote up several who are well known but will refrain from naming them as no purpose would be served - most are gone from tk. My assessment for the last 5 or so years is that the SC's actually want to teach you something you can take back to the line - good stuff not training bs.
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07-15-2010 | 09:26 AM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Completely false...
There is no full blown systems oral on any of the PC or PT events. There is a 2 hour systems review on day two of the PC. During the third day the standards capatin will ask you some systems questions but it isn't anywhere near a full blown systems oral.
Now of course during a transition course where you are getting typed or requaled on an airframe there is an extensive SKV (systems, knowledge, evaluation.) And I am guessing you have the same when getting initial training on type.
On the
07-15-2010 | 12:11 PM
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Completely false...
There is no full blown systems oral on any of the PC or PT events. There is a 2 hour systems review on day two of the PC. During the third day the standards capatin will ask you some systems questions but it isn't anywhere near a full blown systems oral.
Now of course during a transition course where you are getting typed or requaled on an airframe there is an extensive SKV (systems, knowledge, evaluation.) And I am guessing you have the same when getting initial training on type.
On the
There is no full blown systems oral on any of the PC or PT events. There is a 2 hour systems review on day two of the PC. During the third day the standards capatin will ask you some systems questions but it isn't anywhere near a full blown systems oral.
Now of course during a transition course where you are getting typed or requaled on an airframe there is an extensive SKV (systems, knowledge, evaluation.) And I am guessing you have the same when getting initial training on type.
On the
07-15-2010 | 04:56 PM
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The last transition I went through was not much of a extensive system evaluation, in fact it is all done on a 100 question multiple choice test. I hate to say to but it was the worst transition class I have ever been to in my years at ual, and anyother airline for that matter.
The FAA is happy because it's state of the art training with AQP, ESKV, MTV, LOE, etc. The company is happy because they are saving dollars with a disgustingly small footprint at 2.8 hrs/day. We are happy why? Oh yes, because it is called on the job training.
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07-15-2010 | 05:28 PM
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Completely false...
There is no full blown systems oral on any of the PC or PT events. There is a 2 hour systems review on day two of the PC. During the third day the standards capatin will ask you some systems questions but it isn't anywhere near a full blown systems oral.
Now of course during a transition course where you are getting typed or requaled on an airframe there is an extensive SKV (systems, knowledge, evaluation.) And I am guessing you have the same when getting initial training on type.
On the
There is no full blown systems oral on any of the PC or PT events. There is a 2 hour systems review on day two of the PC. During the third day the standards capatin will ask you some systems questions but it isn't anywhere near a full blown systems oral.
Now of course during a transition course where you are getting typed or requaled on an airframe there is an extensive SKV (systems, knowledge, evaluation.) And I am guessing you have the same when getting initial training on type.
On the
07-15-2010 | 06:07 PM
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From: Fero's
I have never had a SC ask me anything more than a limitation or a memory item on a pc. Most of the questions are of an operational nature and have very little to do with systems.
07-15-2010 | 07:41 PM
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Simply put, our checking events are geared for the lowest common denominator. Our transition events are designed for a pilot who has a couple Boeing types because it's not a fire hose, it's a BP Gulf oil leak.
For the most part, our SC's, PI's, and AI's are all fine people who want you to learn and succeed. They are hog tied from above.
07-15-2010 | 08:42 PM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
The last transition I went through was not much of a extensive system evaluation, in fact it is all done on a 100 question multiple choice test. I hate to say to but it was the worst transition class I have ever been to in my years at ual, and anyother airline for that matter.
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