More Fleet Crossfleeting
04-26-2011 | 05:53 PM
#11
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Let me make sure I understand this...
1. They're not officially merged until we have a joint CBA and an integrated seniority list.
2. But they're going to continue "right sizing" the fleets and mixing up routes so that Smisek continues to get a nice bonus.
3. They really don't need an integrated seniority list or a joint CBA. They can already mix and match fleets (to include putting UAL's 70 seat RJs on CAL routes, despite a court order).
So does UAL really need an integrated seniority list and joint CBA???? What's going to stop them from turning this into the next America West/USAir merger?
1. They're not officially merged until we have a joint CBA and an integrated seniority list.
2. But they're going to continue "right sizing" the fleets and mixing up routes so that Smisek continues to get a nice bonus.
3. They really don't need an integrated seniority list or a joint CBA. They can already mix and match fleets (to include putting UAL's 70 seat RJs on CAL routes, despite a court order).
So does UAL really need an integrated seniority list and joint CBA???? What's going to stop them from turning this into the next America West/USAir merger?
Do you fly for CAL or UAL? If so, what makes you think there has ever been a court case over 70 seat flying at CAL? Call your reps and ask them the status of the company's compliance withe ARBITRATOR's ruling. (capitals for Riddler to get a clue)
See you all May 3 with picket signs in hand.
04-26-2011 | 06:31 PM
#12
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what court order? What did i miss, alpa attorneys actually left the office and went to court? Yhgtsm!
Do you fly for cal or ual? If so, what makes you think there has ever been a court case over 70 seat flying at cal? Call your reps and ask them the status of the company's compliance withe arbitrator's ruling. (capitals for riddler to get a clue)
see you all may 3 with picket signs in hand.
Do you fly for cal or ual? If so, what makes you think there has ever been a court case over 70 seat flying at cal? Call your reps and ask them the status of the company's compliance withe arbitrator's ruling. (capitals for riddler to get a clue)
see you all may 3 with picket signs in hand.
04-26-2011 | 08:59 PM
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But what's the balance point - right now, they're already getting significant synergies, and they have ridiculously low pilot wages and horrific work rules. Does it matter to them if they gain X% more synergies if we demand (X+1)% more pay/work rules? The longer we stay under POS02, the longer the company benefits.
The real fun part is watching/working with guys still busting arse to make DOT, saving gas with shortcuts, single-engine taxis, etc. This is why we will be USAIR part duex. Until we learn SAFETY is paramount, things will never change.
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04-27-2011 | 04:46 AM
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Until we learn SAFETY is paramount, things will never change.
You want some numbers that make's him spew his morning cappuccino.
04-27-2011 | 08:18 AM
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Agreed. But it's never gonna happen with this pilot group. Rouge efforts.......sounds good from someone not flying under C02 and getting 90 hours of pay a month.
04-27-2011 | 02:12 PM
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Agreed. But it's never gonna happen with this pilot group. Rouge efforts.......sounds good from someone not flying under C02 and getting 90 hours of pay a month.
I've been around just long enough to know that 2 or 3 guys per bank taxiing slow isn't making a very big dent. You want to leave a mark? Use a bigger hammer. The time will come. Will this pilot group respond? I'd like to think so, but I share your skepticism. Please pardon my poor grammar. "Rogue".....
04-27-2011 | 03:53 PM
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I am flying under POS '02. I haven't come anywhere near 90 hrs. of total pay since I can't remember when. I get pay for about 75 to 80 hrs/mo. I bid line value low/award work low. When PBS gives me more....I self adjust. Simple as that. I've been around just long enough to know that 2 or 3 guys per bank taxiing slow isn't making a very big dent. You want to leave a mark? Use a bigger hammer. The time will come. Will this pilot group respond? I'd like to think so, but I share your skepticism. Please pardon my poor grammar.
"Rogue".....
I've been around just long enough to know that 2 or 3 guys per bank taxiing slow isn't making a very big dent. You want to leave a mark? Use a bigger hammer. The time will come. Will this pilot group respond? I'd like to think so, but I share your skepticism. Please pardon my poor grammar. "Rogue".....
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