Interesting Perspective on PS/TPA Negotiation
#71
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He doesn't know what kind of people you and your B...Buddy Pierce are. He'll figure it out. Do you really think you're helping Pierce or the CAL pilots with this stuff. They just got a bonus and you make them feel bad. Crooks and thieves get to enjoy their windfall why not the CAL guys and girls.
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He doesn't know what kind of people you and your B...Buddy Pierce are. He'll figure it out. Do you really think you're helping Pierce or the CAL pilots with this stuff. They just got a bonus and you make them feel bad. Crooks and thieves get to enjoy their windfall why not the CAL guys and girls.
I know exactly what Pierce and his goats are made of. I think BIBO missed the implications of what I said. Admittedly it's not very clear, but I don't want to say exactly whats on my mind on in this forum.
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Seemed pretty clear to me. He hears what he wants to hear, and believes what he wants to believe... Those are the easiest kind of pilots to lead (mis?), as long as they get theirs, then it's all good regardless of any long term ramifications. Just watch the backtracking when JP ends up back in management for doing such a "great" job on the JCBA... Seems inevitable at this point.
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Seemed pretty clear to me. He hears what he wants to hear, and believes what he wants to believe... Those are the easiest kind of pilots to lead (mis?), as long as they get theirs, then it's all good regardless of any long term ramifications. Just watch the backtracking when JP ends up back in management for doing such a "great" job on the JCBA... Seems inevitable at this point.
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Question - If you are really a cAPtain at CAL do you make your F/O's call you Sir? Do you let your F/O's fly? If you let your F/O's fly, do they have to say please when the ask for flaps and gear. Bet you are a hoot to fly with. Do the Flight Attendants visit the cockpit in flight - maybe some of the male F/A's anyway- yes?
Last edited by dexim; 01-11-2012 at 08:08 AM. Reason: Took out Dirty words.
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I love personal slams. So fulfilling for you. Fun! The funny part is that I'm not the minority. Not a savant either, just paying attention. Good luck, we're all going to need it.
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CAL pilots, consider the following:
If you like it or not, UAL acquired CAL. UAL headquarters is located in Chicago, the home of notorious judges, politicians and lawyers. UAL has more pilots than CAL. UAL controls ALPA.
Now, tell us, who do you think will mostly control the seniority integration process?
Of course, there are some ding dongs who think seniority is a "right." Seniority is not a right but a negotiated item. Unions can negotiate almost anything they want including putting entire group of pilots at the bottom of the list.
UAL pilots are already, militant, angry and impatient. Many UAL pilots directly blame CAL for their predicament. CA Jay Pierce has been undermining UAL pilots at every opportunity which is creating much distrust and hostility. UAL pilots are more angry at Jay Pierce and CAL pilots than they are of management. This is not good news for those hoping for a fair seniority integration. If CAL pilots were smart, they would immediately get rid of Pierce.
CAL pilots. You better get your head out of your @$$ before it's too late.
If you like it or not, UAL acquired CAL. UAL headquarters is located in Chicago, the home of notorious judges, politicians and lawyers. UAL has more pilots than CAL. UAL controls ALPA.
Now, tell us, who do you think will mostly control the seniority integration process?
Of course, there are some ding dongs who think seniority is a "right." Seniority is not a right but a negotiated item. Unions can negotiate almost anything they want including putting entire group of pilots at the bottom of the list.
UAL pilots are already, militant, angry and impatient. Many UAL pilots directly blame CAL for their predicament. CA Jay Pierce has been undermining UAL pilots at every opportunity which is creating much distrust and hostility. UAL pilots are more angry at Jay Pierce and CAL pilots than they are of management. This is not good news for those hoping for a fair seniority integration. If CAL pilots were smart, they would immediately get rid of Pierce.
CAL pilots. You better get your head out of your @$$ before it's too late.
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CAL pilots, consider the following:
If you like it or not, UAL acquired CAL. UAL headquarters is located in Chicago, the home of notorious judges, politicians and lawyers. UAL has more pilots than CAL. UAL controls ALPA.
Now, tell us, who do you think will mostly control the seniority integration process?
Of course, there are some ding dongs who think seniority is a "right." Seniority is not a right but a negotiated item. Unions can negotiate almost anything they want including putting entire group of pilots at the bottom of the list.
UAL pilots are already, militant, angry and impatient. Many UAL pilots directlIy blame CAL for their predicament. CA Jay Pierce has been undermining UAL pilots at every opportunity which is creating much distrust and hostility. UAL pilots are more angry at Jay Pierce and CAL pilots than they are of management. This is not good news for those hoping for a fair seniority integration. If CAL pilots were smart, they would immediately get rid of Pierce.
CAL pilots. You better get your head out of your @$$ before it's too late.
If you like it or not, UAL acquired CAL. UAL headquarters is located in Chicago, the home of notorious judges, politicians and lawyers. UAL has more pilots than CAL. UAL controls ALPA.
Now, tell us, who do you think will mostly control the seniority integration process?
Of course, there are some ding dongs who think seniority is a "right." Seniority is not a right but a negotiated item. Unions can negotiate almost anything they want including putting entire group of pilots at the bottom of the list.
UAL pilots are already, militant, angry and impatient. Many UAL pilots directlIy blame CAL for their predicament. CA Jay Pierce has been undermining UAL pilots at every opportunity which is creating much distrust and hostility. UAL pilots are more angry at Jay Pierce and CAL pilots than they are of management. This is not good news for those hoping for a fair seniority integration. If CAL pilots were smart, they would immediately get rid of Pierce.
CAL pilots. You better get your head out of your @$$ before it's too late.
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CAL pilots, consider the following:
If you like it or not, UAL acquired CAL. UAL headquarters is located in Chicago, the home of notorious judges, politicians and lawyers. UAL has more pilots than CAL. UAL controls ALPA.
Now, tell us, who do you think will mostly control the seniority integration process?
Of course, there are some ding dongs who think seniority is a "right." Seniority is not a right but a negotiated item. Unions can negotiate almost anything they want including putting entire group of pilots at the bottom of the list.
UAL pilots are already, militant, angry and impatient. Many UAL pilots directly blame CAL for their predicament. CA Jay Pierce has been undermining UAL pilots at every opportunity which is creating much distrust and hostility. UAL pilots are more angry at Jay Pierce and CAL pilots than they are of management. This is not good news for those hoping for a fair seniority integration. If CAL pilots were smart, they would immediately get rid of Pierce.
CAL pilots. You better get your head out of your @$$ before it's too late.
If you like it or not, UAL acquired CAL. UAL headquarters is located in Chicago, the home of notorious judges, politicians and lawyers. UAL has more pilots than CAL. UAL controls ALPA.
Now, tell us, who do you think will mostly control the seniority integration process?
Of course, there are some ding dongs who think seniority is a "right." Seniority is not a right but a negotiated item. Unions can negotiate almost anything they want including putting entire group of pilots at the bottom of the list.
UAL pilots are already, militant, angry and impatient. Many UAL pilots directly blame CAL for their predicament. CA Jay Pierce has been undermining UAL pilots at every opportunity which is creating much distrust and hostility. UAL pilots are more angry at Jay Pierce and CAL pilots than they are of management. This is not good news for those hoping for a fair seniority integration. If CAL pilots were smart, they would immediately get rid of Pierce.
CAL pilots. You better get your head out of your @$$ before it's too late.
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