I'v been reading the threads in here with great enthusiasm and I am glad to hear that some of you are coming back to work. I feel for all of you as my dad is a pilot for UA, and though never furloughed, I have seen and personally felt what all 7500 of you have gone through.

I have wanted to fly for UA since I could talk and I am on my way to pursuing that dream but I don't want to do it in the wrong manner.

My question is when all of you have had the opportunity to be a "New hire" at CO and they start hiring off of the streets will the off the street new hires be looked down on?

I refuse to be a scab and I rufuse to take another pilots job and bring shame and disgrace upon my family and myself, also, my dad would throw me into a volcano. I know its a ways away but I will not apply if it means taking another pilots job.

I have been wondering about this and I get asked this question alot by the people I fly with so any answers would be appreciated.

 

You fly an EMB-170 and you're worried about someone else taking jobs? Hahahahaha that's rich!

 

Personally, I feel that where we fly is much more important that what we fly. Protect the routes. I flew ATR's in the early '90's to destinations that AA had flown to with the F-100. They had pilots on furlough at the time.

 

I think your last opportunity to do that was in November of 2011. The company is now called United.

 

The way I see it is......if they start hiring to the CAL side of the operation off the street, it's because they went through the entire UAL furlough list. At that point, the job is yours if you are qualified and actually get it. The United guys that are still out there should be able to come back at a later date and be worked into the appropriate seniority position that their original date of hire gave them, IE, above you. You're not a scab if that is the case. I could be wrong though and it wouldn't be the first time.

 

YES! UCH management looks down on all UAL/CAL pilots.

The rest of us would welcome you.

SP

 

Thank you. That is the general feeling of the line guys I talk to when I am junpseating to work but I wanted to hear from you furloughed guys.

Well played. HAHA. And thanks for the welcoming.

I look forward to flying with all of you in the future. Even you lfenthefstlne. I don't know why pilots feel the need to fight with pilots the industry that we live in today was forced down our throats. ALL pilots need to stand together to fight for it all back. I'm really pulling for you guys to take back all 70 seat scope becasue it will put all L-UAL pilots back to work and get me a job. Keep up the fight I'm counting on you.

 

Sorry to hear about your addiction, buckle up for the ride. It's just about guaranteed to ruin your life.

 

I'm bypassing on the L-CAL job offer, so you wouldn't be taking my job, I'm creating that opportunity for you by not returning. As soon as it is available I encourage you to take a position as an off the street new hire and will welcome you with open arms.

For you see, if I do return to the line in accordance with my current Guam Gone 2015 escapist vision, you will be nested nicely below me on the seniority list. I'll look down, smile, wave, buy your fine, half-winged self a nice dinner, and explain how glad I am to have you between me and my third furlough when inevitably the Smisek Synergy Machine starts trimming the list again.

So c'mon in, the water's fine. Those fins? Oh, I think there just management dolphins come to help us.

 

Reading your posts, I can't help but think that you are counting your chickens before they hatch. You act as if the job is already yours. Do they no longer interview candidates? I'm assuming you just throw in an application and a UAL id and training packet comes in the mail two weeks later? This is what I call entitlement. Pay your dues. You're a regional fo; you have a long way to go. Who knows, maybe they will hire you someday, but maybe they won't. Stop writing as if the job is a guarantee. Furthermore, I hope that you would proofread your application and resume' a little more than you do your posts (grammatical errors). And as far as being the kid of a ual pilot; I was one too. It don't mean squat.