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CAL System Bid released
13-04
243 vacancies 35 737 crews to ORD & DEN starting 9/12 No SFO or 767 in LUAL domiciles |
So with the 243 vacancies, how many will remain furloughed, and how far down the furlough list are they?
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Originally Posted by PBSG
(Post 1143698)
So with the 243 vacancies, how many will remain furloughed, and how far down the furlough list are they?
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Can anyone find out where the specific vacancies are? I see they are opening DEN and ORD for now effective in September.
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Originally Posted by guppyflyer
(Post 1143701)
They've gone through about 1000 to get 240, so after all that roughly 1200 still on the list.
Either way the number of planned retirements reflected and overall number of positions is about as disappointing as I thought it would be, but at least we're not shrinking:cool: |
OK so 1400 minus the 240 that took the CAL deal leaves 1200 still out
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Originally Posted by Speedtape
(Post 1143706)
So there are 2200(ish) ? I thought there were 1437, or are there some voluntary guys that no one ever mentions?
Either way the number of planned retirements reflected and overall number of positions is about as disappointing as I thought it would be, but at least we're not shrinking:cool: 240 took jobs with LCAL so that leaves the remainder of the 1437, roughly 1200 on furlough. Just because they turned the job with CAL down doesn't mean they are off the list. |
Hold on folks. Some in-accuracies here.
They have gone 1068 down the list of 1437 furloughees to get roughly 178 from the last bid. The bypass rate is 6 to 1 as of now. That leaves roughly 1259 people who have not accepted a new hire at this time. If the bypass rate keeps as it is then clearly they will be down the list of 1437 in roughly 60 vacancies and unless there is a massive about face from those who have bypassed to call in and come back, they will have to hire off the street in the future. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE CLASS DATES? ARE THEY TRAINING THROUGH SUMMER? |
Originally Posted by Coto Pilot
(Post 1143704)
Can anyone find out where the specific vacancies are? I see they are opening DEN and ORD for now effective in September.
CLE 737 CA 0 Vacancies CLE 737 FO 0 Vacancies DEN 737 CA 35 Vacancies DEN 737 FO 35 Vacancies NYC 737 CA 0 Vacancies NYC 737 FO 0 Vacancies IAH 737 CA 0 Vacancies IAH 737 FO 0 Vacancies GUM 737 CA 4 Vacancies GUM 737 FO 9 Vacancies LAX 737 CA 17 Vacancies LAX 737 FO 16 Vacancies ORD 737 CA 35 Vacancies ORD 737 FO 35 Vacancies NYC 756 CA 2 Vacancies NYC 756 FO 12 Vacancies IAH 756 CA 0 Vacancies IAH 756 FO 5 Vacancies NYC 777 CA 2 Vacancies NYC 777 FO 0 Vacancies IAH 777 CA 1 Vacancy IAH 777 FO 2 Vacancies IAH 787 CA 11 Vacancies IAH 787 FO 22 Vacancies 243 total vacancies (107 CA + 136 FO) system wide BESs with 0 vacancies indicate that the total number of pilots in that BES is not going to increase on this bid. However, actual bidding around the system could create a vacancy in these BESs based on pilots bidding out of that BES to another BES. (EX: A NYC 777 FO slot could be created if a NYC 777 FO bids and holds NYC 777 CA) From the bid: We are continuing to increase staffing on the 737 in response to new 737 aircraft deliveries and the associated block hour increase for the summer. Additionally, narrowbody redeployment will result in opening ORD-737 and DEN-737 Bases and increasing the staffing in the LAX-737 Base. We intend to open both Bases beginning with the September 2012 bid month. The TPA extension provides a mechanism to staff the new Bases with Special Assignments should additional staffing be needed. The TPA also provides that the new Bases be initially staffed with volunteers only. In order to comply with that requirement, this System Bid utilizes Min/Max to a larger extent than in the past. Because it may not be possible to fully staff the new Bases using only volunteers, Reserve Lines may occupy a greater percentage of the total staffing than has historically been the case. Both ORD and DEN are considered New Bases as defined in the Section 24, Part 5.J.4 of the CBA for System Bids posted prior to February 29, 2013. Bid open for bidding effective March 1, 2012 Snapshot #1 expected to be posted to Flight Ops site Wednesday, March 7, 2012 Snapshot #2 expected to be posted to Flight Ops site Monday, March 12, 2012 Bid closes Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 1000CT |
Thanks EWR, do you know the training dates or does the bid show that? I have never seen a CAL bid so forgive the ignorance if not.
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