FWIW... Once you get to the gate all you see are a bunch of names (tv screen). When I list on Skynet I see where I am with all the codes, but unless I print off the list each and every time I have absolutely no clue who all the other people are once at the gate. So I wouldn't have any idea if I was going ahead of someone I shouldn't be.

The gates used to print off paper with all the standby/PS travelers on it that DID show the codes if I remember correctly, but I haven't seen them do that in a while.

Edit: and of course as I type that the 3 gates near me all put up the piece of paper with names AND codes. Go figure.

 

All I'm saying is don't lump us all in together. For some it's an honest mistake and speaking for me I would gladly approach the gate and let them know what priority should be if I were made aware of a problem.

And this will all be a moot point when y'all take back scope and hire us all anyway (I can still dream, right?)

 

X just means UAX, not necessarily ExpressJet.

 

It's real easy UAX'ers. List ONE WAY on your metal (SA0X). Then make a separate ONE WAY listing on our metal (SA5X). For my fellow UA'ers...When you see this happen on a mainline flight, politely explain to the UAX'er that there is no way that he/she is boarding ahead of you/your family on a mainline flight. I have brought this to the attention of our union several times now. Two weeks ago a Mesa pilot traveling as an SA0X was number 2 ahead of 20 UAL employees on my "going home" A320. I noticed that one of our Council 12 union reps was also passriding on the flight as well. I printed the "pass rider list" and handed it the the union rep. It was the first that he had heard of this. Until this gets fixed, ALL United Airlines employees need to be aware of this and CONFRONT & EDUCATE these guys when they see this so called "glitch" occuring with OUR TRAVEL BENEFITS!!!

 

And they know the boarding priority, employing company, and seniority how?

This is a UNICAL IT problem that highlites the recent PSS changeover "success". Placing blame or responsibility on individual pass riders is as misplaced as trying to start a jumpseat war.

 

No offense gettinbumped, but there's a few more things you should remember about that as well. There was A LOT more to that whole thing. It went on for quite some time that UAL pilots were processed ahead of UAX pilots on their own metal, with a fair share of UAL pilots taking full advantage of it. And it was happening on ALL UAX carriers, not jut OO. It was the worst where it's UAL gate agents, the UAX plane is out at the hardstand on a quick turn, the CA may not have time to walk to the gate, and the agent is processing the UAL pilot and not even letting the UAX pilot down to talk to the CA. YES, it happened, repeatedly, hence all the reports to the JS chairs.

For months, the respective UAX JS chairs would inform the UAL JS committee, and NOTHING was being done. The usual response was "it's a glitch in the system, the company says it's too expensive to fix, so we can't do anything about it". In other words, pi$$ off.

AGAIN, this went of for months and months. Then all but one of UAX carriers (at the time) decided to draft the letter you have been shown. Well, wasn't it a freaking coincidence that when that happened, the UAL JS committee actually put pressure on the company to fix the issue? It wasn't about starting a "jumpseat war". It was about going through proper channels and procedures for an extended period of time and constantly banging your head on an wall because the system wasn't being fixed.

There were PLENTY of threads on here about it back then, and PLENTY of UAL pilots that thought it was their god given right to have JS priority on UAX airplanes. These guys also thought that the "tail shouldn't try to wag the dog". It wasn't about that, it was about getting YOUR JS committee to get something fixed that they didn't see as a priority. UAL buys the seats in the back, but the JS is STILL the respective carrier's, and ANY mainline partner is retarded if they think they own that too. DALALPA tried it a few years back on their DelCon carriers, ehhhh, didn't work out so good for them.

So it sucks that maybe an OO pilot (or any other pilot) "threatened you". And for the record, there's been multiple times when UAX pilots have been denied the JS on mainline metal. You know, those guys that say they don't let RJ guys on their JS. Happened at BOTH the carriers I've worked at. I encourage those guys to tell the CA just what you said above;

"Dont take me to work, I don't care. But how do you think it's going to go for you when I don't make a trip because I was denied a Jumpseat on an airplane with a united paint job on it?"

Now, as far as this whole SA0X or whatever it is. Are all you guys sure that it's NOT a deadheading crew member? UAL will PS one to get them INTO position, as far as DH'ing them BACK to domicile, ehhhhh, UAL doesn't really do that for UAX crew members so much. IOW, the ONLY time it's positive space back to domicile is the LAST flight.

 

Your right xjt sometimes the only wasy to get the js committee's attention is to deny the jumpseat. Never bothered me to have a little war to wake someone up.

 

Aww this thread is cute. The old pilots are arguing about young pilots TUUUKIINN YERRRRRRR PRAAOORRRIIITTTTEEERRRRRSSSS.

 

Well, sadly, if that's what it takes JUST concerning the jumpseat and reciprocity issues.

Reference SOME (not ALL) NYC based UAL crews circa late 2004 early 2005. Ask how that little Jumpseat jihad they decided to engage in with JetBlue went for them. Sad what the then UAL JS chair had to tell his own allegedly professional pilots to get it to stop.

Safe to say that IF JetBlue has responded in kind, well, it woulda' been pretty funny to watch.

 

Don't know anything about that xjt with nyc and all, my point is sometimes you have to do something like that to get alpa'a attention. Funny with alpa you can call them and try to get a resonse about something and hardly a response, but deny the jumpseat and you get called the same day, then they listen.