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04-12-2012 | 07:19 PM
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And now, I am too old to get into porn. Dammitt!
Seriously.... we all need to join forces and get a real contract. No mercy. Just vote no/say no (to junior manning & f'd up assignments) until management realizes they can't operate without us. Man up! You know you are all tired of this shizzle.
04-13-2012 | 02:50 AM
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No offense to the CAL side, but most have not worked under a good contract. One positive out of our furloughees flying with CAL is the ability to constructively educate them on what a real contract is/was like.
Don't accept small advancements on CAL' s work rules, but demand Ual's +. Equally important, is the reigning in of scope.
Don't accept small advancements on CAL' s work rules, but demand Ual's +. Equally important, is the reigning in of scope.
04-13-2012 | 03:30 AM
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No offense to the CAL side, but most have not worked under a good contract. One positive out of our furloughees flying with CAL is the ability to constructively educate them on what a real contract is/was like.
Don't accept small advancements on CAL' s work rules, but demand Ual's +. Equally important, is the reigning in of scope.
Don't accept small advancements on CAL' s work rules, but demand Ual's +. Equally important, is the reigning in of scope.
04-13-2012 | 04:44 AM
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Constructive criticism isn't welcome from new hires? What a load of crap. Just because a guy is new to the operation doesn't mean that he can't offer insight and hasn't worked for a better operation WRT to work rules and scheduling etc. That "new hire" probably has at least 10 years in 121 ops and maybe more.
I suppose his "new hire" opinion and inputs aren't welcome for stuff like safety or line ops either??
I have a buddy at CAL. He came from a defunct 121 op where he was flying 57s. prior to that he was a commuter driver. His opinion when he got there? "Mesa with bigger jets"
Instead of bashing guys why the don't we all agree that OUR contract sucks and YOUR contract sucks and make sure that we need to do everything possible to ensure that we get an industry leading one this time?
I suppose his "new hire" opinion and inputs aren't welcome for stuff like safety or line ops either??
I have a buddy at CAL. He came from a defunct 121 op where he was flying 57s. prior to that he was a commuter driver. His opinion when he got there? "Mesa with bigger jets"
Instead of bashing guys why the don't we all agree that OUR contract sucks and YOUR contract sucks and make sure that we need to do everything possible to ensure that we get an industry leading one this time?
04-13-2012 | 05:06 AM
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Yes. I always appreciate "constructive criticism" from new hires. Always goes over really big. That said, if we insist on nothing less than L-CAL scope and L-UAL + work rules, we're off to a pretty good start. I've heard they're negotiating UAL 90-seat pay rates. No word about 70-seat, but it doesn't bode well...
04-13-2012 | 05:37 AM
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04-13-2012 | 05:46 AM
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