Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1261731)

Yes, and they weren't stapled. They were integrated with everyone else based on career expectations. NWA received credit from the arbitrator for future retirements, while DAL received credit for more WB flying. There were other factors as well. It was a complicated ruling. I has to read the arbitrators decision several times. :o

Originally Posted by routemap (Post 1262337)

So how many involuntary furloughs did NWA have? and where did they end up on the seniority list?

Very interesting stuff here!

Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 1262522)

he was furloughed, then was brought back at longevity as though he never left.

Originally Posted by IAHB756 (Post 1262195)

I have a question. I have heard a lot about all of those 737's being parked and the claim that it was "for the merger" even though it occurred prior to the merger announcement with CAL. The "large widebody order" was also just prior to the merger announcement but nobody likes to talk about that. This "order" was obviously a bone thrown to UAL-ALPA by Tilton as it will be used as an argument by the UALALPA Merger Committee in their argument during SLI talks. Which argument do you guys want "on the record" as you can't have both. You either claim the airline was "rightsizing" for the merger or you claim that United had its own growth plans and these A-350's and 787's were key tools in the modernization of the UAL fleet(these were all replacement aircraft anyway).

This latest grievance which referred to CAL as an "affiliate" airline (skywest, expressjet, mesa etc) was laughable at best. If that doesn't show just how arrogant the UAL-MEC is I don't know what does. IAH-787 was announced years ago and the TPA allowed the 787 to be flown out of EWR as well in the future should that be needed.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1261731)

Yes, and they weren't stapled. They were integrated with everyone else based on career expectations. NWA received credit from the arbitrator for future retirements, while DAL received credit for more WB flying. There were other factors as well. It was a complicated ruling. I has to read the arbitrators decision several times. :o

Originally Posted by ualratt (Post 1261836)

Because it was a merger of two pilot seniority list and not a merging of two "active" pilot seniority list.

Originally Posted by routemap (Post 1262337)

So how many involuntary furloughs did NWA have? and where did they end up on the seniority list?

Very interesting stuff here!

Originally Posted by CitationD (Post 1262541)

What a concept!

Too bad longevity (for pay) is such a difficult pill for some of our "brothers" to swallow.

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1262602)

That should be the least wet could offer. The 2172/1437 have suffered enough.

Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1262327)

A significant improvement in work rules (particularly reserve) will make a huge change. Those super junior Cap seats will evaporate.