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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1261523)
There are Delta 2007 hires that were put senior to NWA 2000 hires on the DAL/NWA merged list.
Which airline was bigger DAL or NWA? DAL=UAL NWA=CAL Careful what you wish for pal! |
Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett
(Post 1261274)
Nobody at L-UAL is screaming for DOH.....however I fully expect the furloughed guys hired in 99' to NOT go behind the 2005-2007 CAL crowd....good luck thinking they will our active service is over 8 years without LONGEVITY.
I have had 2007 CAL hires think they will "beat" out all the UAL furloughed bubba's......aint gonna happen! To fully expect the 1999 furloughs to NOT go behind the 2005-2007 CAL hires is a bold statement. Bottom line is furloughed is a bad place to be in a merger. Anyway, glad you are not the on the arbitration board, you would put me back on reserve all because of longevity, longevity, longevity. |
Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett
(Post 1261489)
A seniority list is just like a ladder full of naked people... Look down all you see is smiling faces, Look up all you see buttholes waiting to poop all over you!!!
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Originally Posted by routemap
(Post 1261654)
I'm sure you know this, but "Factors that must be considered in constructing a fair and equitable integrated seniority list in no particular order and with no particular weight include but are not limited to: career expectations, longevity, status and category."
To fully expect the 1999 furloughs to NOT go behind the 2005-2007 CAL hires is a bold statement. Bottom line is furloughed is a bad place to be in a merger. Anyway, glad you are not the on the arbitration board, you would put me back on reserve all because of longevity, longevity, longevity. |
Originally Posted by Coto Pilot
(Post 1261695)
It's not just longevity it's career expectations. United had two and a half times the number of wide bodies that Continental had.
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Originally Posted by routemap
(Post 1261654)
I'm sure you know this, but "Factors that must be considered in constructing a fair and equitable integrated seniority list in no particular order and with no particular weight include but are not limited to: career expectations, longevity, status and category."
To fully expect the 1999 furloughs to NOT go behind the 2005-2007 CAL hires is a bold statement. Bottom line is furloughed is a bad place to be in a merger. Anyway, glad you are not the on the arbitration board, you would put me back on reserve all because of longevity, longevity, longevity. |
Originally Posted by APC225
(Post 1261707)
You need a career before you can have career expectations. United has two and a half times more outsourced flying than Continental has.
Plenty of planes, lots of retirements, big career expectations over the next 10 years. |
Originally Posted by SOTeric
(Post 1261543)
And I suppose you think that's fair? No windfall? Did it take into account longevity? (The years of service kind).
I guess in the end it only matters what the arbitrators think eh? |
Originally Posted by ualratt
(Post 1261581)
...and there are over 300 pilots still on furlough at DAL whom the CAL brethrens believe should have been stapled. Well they're not...
Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett
(Post 1261607)
.........and ALPA merger policy has changed since the DAL/NWA merger.
Which airline was bigger DAL or NWA? DAL=UAL NWA=CAL Careful what you wish for pal! |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1261724)
No one at DAL is on involuntary furlough.
Were there any furloughs (DAL or NWA) that were not offered "recall" prior to the DAL/NWA Merger taking place? IE - At Merger Announcement Date. |
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