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cadetdrivr 09-04-2012 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by CAL 73 (Post 1255620)
Larry broke off talks with United cause he saw how unhealthy (financially)that airline was. Its not only my view but of fellow pilots at various majors that United was not going to be around for much longer. I am sick and tires of multiple united guys feeling entitled to what me!-me!-me! should get because of various reasons like "well, we parked those jets just to merge with you guys", "we saved you guys", "we are United". United would be dead without any merger its time to admit that.

And yet when the formal meger occurred in 2010 UAL a better balance sheet than CAL. It turns out the collective financial analysis groupthink of fellow pilots was worth jack. Admit that.

As a bonus, which CEO (CAL or UAL) testified in front if Congress that their company would not survive without the merger?

(Hint: It reminds me of that story about the guy in the glass house.) ;)

flyboycpa 09-04-2012 06:46 AM

...and now back to the originally scheduled program....after multiple pages of children attacking each other....

When is the first snapshot being released?

Ottopilot 09-04-2012 07:40 AM

Tomorrow. IF our "IT company with wings" can get it out on time. ;)

I'm going for the left seat again. I had to give it up to merge with UAL.

CitationD 09-04-2012 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by CAL 73 (Post 1255620)
Its not only my view but of fellow pilots at various majors that United was not going to be around for much longer.

Sorry to disappoint... :D

El Gwopo 09-04-2012 10:52 AM

Enemy is management. Not the other pilot group. SLI WILL BE GOING TO ARBITRATION so what are you going to prove on an anonymous message board? Relax! Who are the people who want you to relax SCOPE, give you a "bonus" check instead of full retro, give you crappy work rules, pay you less, and want you to retire in the poor house?
Jeez!!!
Direct your anger in the right direction! Aim at that homo Jeff and his minions! They get EXTREMLY excited when we fight amongst our selfs.
F'n FOCUS

syd111 09-04-2012 11:01 AM

cal73, i heard the same thing about cal for my first 5 years here, I guess you just never know who will last and who won't.

Daytripper 09-04-2012 02:28 PM

Just a couple of questions while these M&A experts verbally chest thump:

1. Who came up with the snap shot date....May 2, 2010...I believe.

2. Can that date be changed?

3. If it can be changed, by whom? Arbitrators, MEC resolution?

;)

cadetdrivr 09-04-2012 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 1255910)

1. Who came up with the snap shot date....May 2, 2010...I believe.

2. Can that date be changed?

3. If it can be changed, by whom? Arbitrators, MEC resolution?

;)

Considering that the SLI processes has not even formally started, is there even a snapshot date?

ChrisJT6 09-04-2012 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by CAL 73 (Post 1255620)
Larry broke off talks with United cause he saw how unhealthy (financially)that airline was. Its not only my view but of fellow pilots at various majors that United was not going to be around for much longer. I am sick and tires of multiple united guys feeling entitled to what me!-me!-me! should get because of various reasons like "well, we parked those jets just to merge with you guys", "we saved you guys", "we are United". United would be dead without any merger its time to admit that.

United going out of business was a large part of AA's post 9/11 business plan. They were wrong and so you and your various fellow pilots were too. We made huge sacrifices that saved UAL and pre-merger had several billion cash in the bank and was the #1 on-time airline for 2 years straight. You were wrong and look what a bang up job your sCAL execs (touted for several years by ya'll as the best) are doing these days. CAL reservation systems...crap, CAL management...crap. No junior sUAL active or furloughed pilot I know feels entitled...we just want a fair non-staple job integration. "Laugh" or be "sick and tires" whatever it is today, but the only thing I'm glad about is that this will be handled in arbitration and not by you!

757Driver 09-04-2012 03:13 PM

Back to this BS are we?

Who cares who was better than who, we are chained to an anchor right now, (see Smisek and the crappy airline that we work for), TOGETHER and the more sh!t slinging we do amongst each other, the less effective we'll be against the real enemy.

Save it for that lame-ass team that's hunkered down on Whacker Ave guys.


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