UAL Pilots have been Played.....
09-03-2012, 11:43 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by mvndc10
Yes, I have been envolved in a couple of strikes in the past...
The big question UAL/CAL has is will your pile of SCABS, SCAB Again??
Most likely they will based on their age and background.....
The big question UAL/CAL has is will your pile of SCABS, SCAB Again??
Most likely they will based on their age and background.....
09-03-2012, 05:38 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by mvndc10
When you are currently working for 40% less and received No Merger Equity payments and have been watching Jeff and his Buddies cash in..
Originally Posted by mvndc10
I don't think UAL Pilot's have any room to criticise DAL/NWA Pilots for contract improvements they have had obtained over the last 5 years..
Maybe Barron should look in the mirror to see who was played.
Maybe it is about time UAL Pilots look at taking action with or without ALPA....
Maybe Barron should look in the mirror to see who was played.
Maybe it is about time UAL Pilots look at taking action with or without ALPA....
@ uaav8r - 1. Why do you view not having gone on strike as a lack of fortitude?
Is the willingness and preparedness to strike critical to successful negotiations or is an actual strike the only way to prove resolve?
The Delta C2K was achieved AFTER a release from the NMB and less than 72 hours from when a strike was to occur. The Delta Pilots had already gone to the base airports and emptied their lockers in a fully publicized event, and the company capitulated and signed onto the last of the DALPA demands.
P.S. 45% of the current Delta Pilots are former NWA pilots, and they did walk in 1998, so be careful with painting with a broad brush.
Keep your ire pointed in an effective direction, the JNC's got snookered by the NMB's forced "play nice order"..... Hopefully they will release you soon due to the "bad faith" that UCAL is continuing to show.... I still think you won't get released until after Nov. 6, but all that means is that you have a few more months to build your "vacation fund". I wish you guys did not have to go on strike, but your management just won't compensate you properly without a fight.
09-04-2012, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mvndc10
I don't think UAL Pilot's have any room to criticise DAL/NWA Pilots for contract improvements they have had obtained over the last 5 years.
Three words for you, 90 seat RJ's.
Nuff said.
09-04-2012, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
None are allowed per our contract, so whats your point!
Did you happen to tell skywest or any of the other companies currently flying them for Delta Connection?
09-04-2012, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by formerdal
None are allowed per our contract, so whats your point!
09-04-2012, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Oh that's right, you guys have them disguised as 76 seaters with First Class. Again, that's my biggest critique on your very mediocre contract.
I won't disagree that the DAL contract could be better. But I don't think you have leverage to call it mediocre. Perhaps if a pilot group other then Delta would put a rung in the ladder we could do more.
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