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Old 09-04-2012 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Ummmmmmm...yeah because CAL has really contributed. SCABS, vacation sellers with pilots furloughed, CAs flying right seat with FOs on the street, no health care for the first 6 months, reserves flown to FAR max, unlimited turbo props, and lacking in pay. But the DAL contract is mediocre?

I won't disagree that the DAL contract could be better. But I don't think you have leverage to call it mediocre. Perhaps if a pilot group other then Delta would put a rung in the ladder we could do more.
Please your a former nwa aren't you we all know how much you were pulling for ual during bankruptcy, I know 15% cut to try to get ual to liquidate. Do us a favor go back to the dal board union "brother"
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Old 09-04-2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Please your a former nwa aren't you we all know how much you were pulling for ual during bankruptcy, I know 15% cut to try to get ual to liquidate. Do us a favor go back to the dal board union "brother"
I'm sorry. How does that prove DALs contract is mediocre? And how would you know if I was pulling for UAL liquidation, which is completely unrelated to my post?
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Old 09-04-2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I'm sorry. How does that prove DALs contract is mediocre? And how would you know if I was pulling for UAL liquidation, which is completely unrelated to my post?
Just get tirred of your endless comments like you are doing something great for the industry or the union, you guys know what you did during our problems now go back to the dal board.

Your comments towards the cal guys ****es me off, yes I have had more than my fair share of those comments but will take any of them on my side before any from your group.

We all remember you guys.
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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:02 AM
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Regarding Delta's scope, most on this board don't know much about it according to their posts on it. Let's not throw rocks in glass houses until we see our own.
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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Ummmmmmm...yeah because CAL has really contributed. SCABS, vacation sellers with pilots furloughed, CAs flying right seat with FOs on the street, no health care for the first 6 months, reserves flown to FAR max, unlimited turbo props, and lacking in pay. But the DAL contract is mediocre?

I won't disagree that the DAL contract could be better. But I don't think you have leverage to call it mediocre. Perhaps if a pilot group other then Delta would put a rung in the ladder we could do more.
Don't beat your head against the wall Johnso, for the UniCal guys it's always somebody else's fault. They blame Smisek, Tilton, Jay and Jay, scabs and each other while insulting another group that they still lag.

Go figure. It would be nice if there was a United dot sometime in the future
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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Just get tirred of your endless comments like you are doing something great for the industry or the union, you guys know what you did during our problems now go back to the dal board.

Your comments towards the cal guys ****es me off, yes I have had more than my fair share of those comments but will take any of them on my side before any from your group.

We all remember you guys.
Well good for you. Keep ramming heads while wasting away years of earnings. But none of what you've posted has proven how the DAL contract is mediocre.
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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Well good for you. Keep ramming heads while wasting away years of earnings. But none of what you've posted has proven how the DAL contract is mediocre.
I am not worried about the dal contract nor the dal pilots, so don't worry about my earnings. If your happy with your crappy contract good for you we are all very proud of what you have and how strong you are as a group, but before you start posting about the group here and yes I think you did if you look back a few posts, go take a look at your own group that will never stand up for anything and in fact might even try to move up over some of your union "brothers"
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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
I am not worried about the dal contract nor the dal pilots, so don't worry about my earnings. If your happy with your crappy contract good for you we are all very proud of what you have and how strong you are as a group, but before you start posting about the group here and yes I think you did if you look back a few posts, go take a look at your own group that will never stand up for anything and in fact might even try to move up over some of your union "brothers"
You keep getting sidetracked. The first thing you said in this post was that you didn't care about the DAL contract. Then you called it "crappy". So in some way you do care about it. And yet again you've failed to state why it's mediocre. I have friends at UCAL, and I support them as well as their pilot group. But to imply that DAL's contract has done little while UCAL spinning their wheels is helping is laughable.

BTW, who struck in 1998 paving the way for the pre BK UAL contract? So who won't stand up for anything?
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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
You keep getting sidetracked. The first thing you said in this post was that you didn't care about the DAL contract. Then you called it "crappy". So in some way you do care about it. And yet again you've failed to state why it's mediocre.
BTW, who struck in 1998 paving the way for the pre BK UAL contract? So who won't stand up for anything?
I'll always remember you guys for after our bankruptcy, please don't act like you have ever done anything for me, trust me I'll never expect anything from you or your group.


So know you paved the way,lol, anything else you want to take credit for, geez, Iknow we are all in this together,lol.

I guess I was sidetracked about whatever your contract might be, just wish you would take it over to the dal board.

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Old 09-04-2012 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
I'll always remember you guys for after our bankruptcy, please don't act like you have ever done anything for me, trust me I'll never expect anything from you or your group.

I guess I was sidetracked about whatever your contract might be, just wish you would take it over to the dal board.
You're correct. I've never done anything for you. I don't even know you. I'm not out to crucify the UCAL group. Whether you believe it or not, I do support them. I really do hope your pilot group does surpass the DAL contract.
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