horrido27

Posted this on the "United Pilot Forum"

Jay P mentioned a few Blastmails ago that these payrates were missing the A380 and also a smaller aircraft. I can care less about the A380.. and if anything, it should have been banded with the 747-4 & -8.

I have been an advocate of the PayBanding scales. What is interesting is this-
If you look at DAL 12yr 747 Capt = $254.74. Banded with the 777 ie, Ultra Long Haul aircraft.
UAL JCBA (A Cat.) 12yr 747 Capt = $234.78. Banded with the 777, but also the 787, 767-4 and the A350.

Couple of things..
We won't see the A350. Lets be honest.
Delta has the 787 (though they no longer have any on immediate order) as a stand alone payscale.
Their 767-4 is banded with their A330's. ($240.62)
And here's the kicker.. their 757 is banded with their 767-2/3/3er.
Pays $213.22 vs. JCBA Cat B $195.82 or Cat C (757-2) $189.97!
Our 767-4 is $234.78 (Cat A Band)

So.. for CAL 757 Capts- $23.25 less an hour!

Lets say that by 2015.. we replace some of the 757's with 787's. DAL pays $258.90 vs. our JCBA of $262.38. But again, the kicker is this- their 747-4 pays $270.25 vs our $262.38!

I truly believe that once we have a JCBA, we will place an order for 747-8's, and also convert those other 50 787 options to full orders. Only thing missing is LABOR PEACE to get financing from the banks for these orders! HINT HINT!!

Gang, these "leaked Payscales" are ****. If they are true, the 1% extra in B Fund contribution (vs. DAL 15%) doesn't make up the difference. Not to mention, we aren't worth Delta minus a Penny! Let alone thousands of dollars a year~

Vote NO. Send emails to your Reps to Vote NO.

Columbia

Deltas is 14%.

horrido27

Thanks.. wasn't sure if it was 14% or 15%.
I used 13% for you guys (DAL) and 15% for us.

Will redo the numbers with 16% for us, and 14% for DAL.

Motch

Columbia

It goes to 15% in 2014 (I think).

LifeNtheFstLne

The reps are voting tonight. I hope all of you let them know that anything less than industry leading in EVERY category is unacceptable.

horrido27

Sent my email a few weeks ago. Not only to my Rep, but to every FO Rep.
Never heard back from any of them~

My promise still stands.
If this passes the MEC Level, and the ''rumors'' are true, I will support the Recall of any and every Rep that Voted YES.

Might be time to clean house~

Motch

Shrek

Yup..........put me in that boat as well.

ANY Yes vote on the MEC level should get YANKED.

horrido27

Are you a United Pilot or Continental?

Motch

guido15

United A320 FO...what are you?

horrido27

I'm a Continental FO. I've identified myself on here numerous times. The reason I asked, because I find it strange that a United Pilot doesn't know his own B Fund Contribution.