Under the current agreement they don't have to pay you at all, and can use you for airport alert as much as they want.

My point with the 4:03 is that you are being paid. Premium kicks in after two assignments.

Here's the language concerning checking your schedule at the end of assignment:

20-K-1-d After blocking in at the termination of a Trip, a Reserve must check to see if he
has been given an assignment or reassignment in accordance with Section 20-I-6-h
(Reserve Additional Flying Provisions).

Logging in to CCS will no doubt suffice. In fact, I'd be willing to be that simply checking your phone for messages would suffice, although that's something to run by the Union first.


After truly studying this new reserve system, I think it's pretty good (from a CAL perspective). No more rolling of days off, everyone starts as long call, the ability to "own" your trip, and strict guidelines for reassignments into days off.

The big concern that everyone seems to be Field Standby. Again, it's hardly ever used because it's typically not to the company's advantage. At CAlEX, we used it all the time after 9/11 because we were severely overstaffed. It sucked ( I did a lot of it ) but it was better than the alternative of more furloughs and downgrades. You can almost think of it as a barometer for staffing.

Always nice to see a "new" poster join the fray. 3 posts so far.. congrats!

Motch

PS> never meet a CAL Pilot who has done numerous Airport Alerts. Gut says, if this POS TA Passes, that won't be the case~

Name calling, and speculation that qualifies as useful dialogue? So you frequent the forum because you have personal anger and need a place to vent? Or you're here to persuade others with logic?

5-E-6-a RDO (Regular Day Off): a reserve day off, found only in a Global Reserve’s schedule, that may be disrupted for the assignment of a Global Trip.





5-E-6-c FDO (Flexible Day Off): a reserve day off that, for a Basic or Global Reserve, may be disrupted for the assignment of a Basic Trip and, for a Global Reserve, may be disrupted for the assignment of a Global Trip. Without the concurrence of the Pilot and the Company, an FDO may only be placed on the first day of a period of days off and may not be placed after a period of six (6) days of reserve availability or on a golden day off as defined in Section 5- E-9.





5-E-7-d For Global Reserves available for the full Bid Period, schedules shall be constructed with the following:
5-E-7-d-(1) one period of six (6) consecutive HDOs; and




So.. I just went from 8 IMM's (Immoveable Days Off) to 6 HDO's.

Are we reading the same TA?

Motch

Motch,

Those are "reassignable days" not movable days (as in our current contract) There is a huge difference.

Currently in C'02, Crew Scheduling can move any of your "off" days (that haven't been declared "immovable", for any reason they see fit. They do not even have to have a trip for you to fly, they can simply tell you that your reserve day has been moved. As you well know, they do it often.

The TA has "reassignable days." A pilot on reserve can be "reassigned into these days, but it must be for an actual trip and Scheduling must have exhausted all long call reserves. The trip must also begin on a scheduled reserve day (not an off day). Also, with the exception of the one CDO day per month, these reassignments can only be for global trips.

Another gain is that if you volunteer for a short call line, you only have on "reassignable day" for the month. All of the rest are HDO.

Since everyone wants to compare this to DAL. Take a look at "X" days and how their "reassignment" process works. This TA is better (in my opinion).

Don't let aggressive pickup lull you into thinking this is a good system. Crew sked will manipulate your ability to pick up through the use of the silos and assigning short calls. In the old UA system, you could pick up 24/48 hours out domestic/international and you still weren't able to pick up much on your first few days on reserve. This 11:00 the day prior pickup will just give the company all morning the day prior to grab you for something else. Also, no longer 13 hours for conversion to short call. Very concessionary versus current UA.

That's why the guys are saying it looks like CAL's reserve system.

UAL currently pays 5.0 for a four hour field standby. The JCBA TA pays nothing. Used all the time! That's bothersome.

Check in after last leg currently not required under the UAL System. They need to catch you before you get off the plane. No requirement for checkin.

FIFO is honored at UAL. They have a trick of two to get around it but there has been numerous grievances awarded where the crew desk ignored FIFO and gave assignements over the holidays that should have gone to someone else by FIFO. That's bothersome as well.

Thanks for the info!

mishap,

You are correct. This JCBA TA Reserve system might look better to the CAL guys but it is appreciably worse than the UAL System which is reason enough for me to vote "NO."

There is no pay for Field Standby for the first two. After that they only adjust your Min Res guarantee up by one hour. If you break guarantee they pay nothing.

At UAL it pays 5.0 and reduces your availability by 5.0.

Is that add pay or credit to line value? The reason I ask is because if it's part of your line value then this whole discussion comes back to staffing. If United is staffed high enough that they are even entertaining assigning field standby then it stands to logic that it is highly unlikely that anyone will be breaking guarantee that month. Hence, the 5 hours of pay is meaningless.