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Imapilot2 11-22-2012 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1297314)
A bit dramatic wouldn't you say...^^^^ Field standby isn't a big deal.

if it is never used then of course not but my friend works at a regional (pinnacle) it is used and it is absolutely horrible, I guess you guys have it but you are assured it will never be used as such

oldmako 11-22-2012 09:30 AM

The way I read it, the company may build an entire line of FSB's and that they are voluntary. IF that is the case and only those who want them get them, fine. Personally, I hate FSB and want no part of it.


<<5-H-3 The Company may award lines consisting of Field Standby assignments, and the following provisions shall apply:

5-H-3-a The number of Field Standby lines, if any, shall be determined by the Company but may not exceed three (3) for each Category.

5-H-3-b Awards to standby lines shall be voluntary. Reserves available for the full Bid Period shall have priority, by seniority, for standby lines. Volunteer Reserves with absences and activities shall be awarded standby reserve lines for the portion of the Bid Period for which they are available.

Coach67 11-22-2012 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1297314)
A bit dramatic wouldn't you say...^^^^ Field standby isn't a big deal.

Maybe not for you ... but how about everyone else on the property that drives to the airport to sit at the Company's whim. For the ones that have to pay $40 round trip in tolls for no pay. For the ones that have to fight rush hour traffic to sit at the aiport at the Company's whim.

I've had at least forty short calls at the field and was only used once to ferry and airplane to a Mx station that could have been done by a normal reserve. He speaketh the truth! Field standby is the most horrible thing on planet earth for a reserve ... especially for those that need to cover three airports!

80ktsClamp 11-22-2012 10:01 AM

DL doesnt have a field standby option on rsv. That would be absolutely awful... Ive done it at a previous airline and wouldnt wish it on anyone.

CALFO 11-22-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1297402)
DL doesnt have a field standby option on rsv. That would be absolutely awful... Ive done it at a previous airline and wouldnt wish it on anyone.

See section 23 -B of dal pilot contract.

80ktsClamp 11-22-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1297493)
See section 23 -B of dal pilot contract.

That's shuttle standby at the marine air terminal. Mainline does not fly the shuttle anymore. On top of that, there wasnt a spare airplane kept for the standby for many years, which they had to have for the standby crew. It's been at least 7 years since that was utilized.... maybe more.

El10 11-23-2012 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Payme (Post 1297233)
Don't let aggressive pickup lull you into thinking this is a good system. Crew sked will manipulate your ability to pick up through the use of the silos and assigning short calls. In the old UA system, you could pick up 24/48 hours out domestic/international and you still weren't able to pick up much on your first few days on reserve. This 11:00 the day prior pickup will just give the company all morning the day prior to grab you for something else. Also, no longer 13 hours for conversion to short call. Very concessionary versus current UA.

They only have two hours for all the bases in the same time zone to jack with your tip you aggressively picked up. I think you are giving the crew desk a lot more credit than they are capable of.

Does the current UAL book prevent FSB or short calls when open trips, I don’t remember?



20-I-6-d
An assignment that is open by 1100 on the day prior to the assignment’s report or

start time shall be provisionally assigned from 1300 to 1459 on the day prior; the Company
may modify such provisional assignments during this time. At 1500 all such assignments
shall become firm and a Reserve must check his schedule after 1500 to see if he has
received an assignment. If an insufficient number of Reserves are available to cover all
such assignments, a Reserve who could be assigned an Open Trip shall not be given a
Short-Call or Field Standby assignment. If any Trips shall remain uncovered, the Company
shall determine which Trips shall remain uncovered.

Mwindaji 11-24-2012 08:24 AM

Does LUAL have special qual airport like BOG,UIO,TGU ect? I can't see how the new reserve scheduling of FIFO will work in all cases due to the fact most pilots that sit reserve do not have special quals. This has sucked a LCAL to have any special airport quals. Pilots that have these quals get stuck with certain phone alert times and fly when more junior pilots are off.


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