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Coach67 11-22-2012 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1297247)
Is that add pay or credit to line value? The reason I ask is because if it's part of your line value then this whole discussion comes back to staffing. If United is staffed high enough that they are even entertaining assigning field standby then it stands to logic that it is highly unlikely that anyone will be breaking guarantee that month. Hence, the 5 hours of pay is meaningless.

It's Credit value. It's far from meaningless. For the guys that fly and break guarantee (and there are a lot of them) it goes into their pocket. For the guys that try and dodge and stay home, it reduces the Copmany's availability to assign more trips to them.

CALFO 11-22-2012 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Coach67 (Post 1297249)
It's Credit value. It's far from meaningless. For the guys that fly and break guarantee (and there are a lot of them) it goes into their pocket. For the guys that try and dodge and stay home, it reduces the Copmany's availability to assign more trips to them.

True, however if the company were ever to even assign Field Standby it would be during a month that they were fat on staffing. In my experience, when there are lots of reserves, it is rare to make above guarantee. In fact, in your scenario, UAL could give a reserve 8 FB's for 40 hours credit, assign another 30 hours of flying, and the reserve still wouldn't break guarantee.

Imapilot2 11-22-2012 05:57 AM

field standby is the most horrible thing on planet earth for a reserve, once this cat is let out of the bag you will never never never get rid of it.

horrido27 11-22-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 1297131)
Name calling, and speculation that qualifies as useful dialogue? So you frequent the forum because you have personal anger and need a place to vent? Or you're here to persuade others with logic?

No..
Name calling would be me saying, You Joe Peck.. are an *******. Or an Idiot, or a combination of both.
That is "name calling".

I merely stated that a "new"poster was defending the TA. Always interesting when people who have never posted come on here and all of a sudden get involved in the discussion.

Guess you can't read or understand English. Then again, doesn't surprise me as you don't seem to be able to comprehend the Negatives and give backs in this TA>

Motch

horrido27 11-22-2012 06:33 AM

^ And to the mods.. I am merely "pointing out" an example of "Name calling"...
Figured I would get this in, before you ban me for a few days~

Motch

jsled 11-22-2012 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1297276)
field standby is the most horrible thing on planet earth for a reserve, once this cat is let out of the bag you will never never never get rid of it.



been out of the bag here at UAL at least since I was hired 15 years ago. I have been on RSV for the last 6 years, been assigned a handful of them. 4 hr sit at the airport, then you go home. flight must depart within 5 hrs of your start time. Easy. AND I rarely have been used.

Sled

Jimmykool 11-22-2012 06:43 AM

Reserve sucks. At all four of my previous airlines reserve sucked. These are by far the best rules I've ever read.

CALFO 11-22-2012 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1297304)
been out of the bag here at UAL since I was hired 15 years ago. I have been on RSV for the last 6 years, been assigned a handful of them. 4 hr sit at the airport, then you go home. flight must depart within 5 hrs of your start time. Easy. AND I rarely have been used.

Sled

Cat has also been out of the bag at CAL for over ten years. I never saw it while I was sitting reserve. In fact, I didn't even know it was in C02 until I started comparing contracts.

Again, it's really not of value to the company unless they overstaff. I would much rather another Captain's slot be available to me that requires me to sit a bit of Field Standby than for it not be available. And I would much prefer that a junior FO spot be available that means i have to sit Field Standby than find myself furloughed while the Company stretches reserves to the limit.

Airhoss 11-22-2012 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1297276)
field standby is the most horrible thing on planet earth for a reserve, once this cat is let out of the bag you will never never never get rid of it.


A bit dramatic wouldn't you say...^^^^ Field standby isn't a big deal.

uaav8r 11-22-2012 06:56 AM

Been on reserve (ORD 757/767 F/O) for 5 years now. At sUA field standby assignments are usually only made when there is a major weather event.


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