‘Cliffnotes’ version of JCBA positives?
01-11-2013, 02:54 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Snarge
JCBA highlights:
Pierce isn't playing brinkmanship with pilot careers.
Money isn't left on the table.
Chapter closed, moving on.
No trying to convince NMB/WH we want more. A futile effort.
No more listening to NO voters rage about how this CBA doesn't fit their personal airline pilot identity, despite zero reasonable plan of action after the vote.
No more listening to "I voted NO!" or "I told you so".. or wait never mind....
Pierce isn't playing brinkmanship with pilot careers.
Money isn't left on the table.
Chapter closed, moving on.
No trying to convince NMB/WH we want more. A futile effort.
No more listening to NO voters rage about how this CBA doesn't fit their personal airline pilot identity, despite zero reasonable plan of action after the vote.
No more listening to "I voted NO!" or "I told you so".. or wait never mind....
01-11-2013, 03:31 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
I believe he means that reserve guarantee, at least for short-call reserves on the L-CAL side, will go from 76-hours to 73 hours. So in the normal January-May/September-October months where flying is reduced, it is quite possible and likely not to break guarantee. However, it isn't a pay cut so-to-speak at the new hourly rates. And long-call goes from 72 hours to 73 hours. Besides, one call always opt to bid for a month of pure short call for 77 hours once that gets implemented.
01-11-2013, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Well, partly right. My "raise" was reduced by the fact that we work the same number of days for conceivably three hours less pay. In other words, I got a $17 an hour raise, however, since I LOST three hours of pay, it's as though my effective raise was reduced by over $7 an hour. And this is just the beginning.............
Don't worry, it's a great win for America.
01-11-2013, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Don't forget.... Not having to worry about where to spend the retro check, we'll just let Smisek keep it.
you don't get what you deserve, you get whatever you can negotiate in the current political and economic climate......
it's all about politics.... not a pilots own Narcissus image....
01-11-2013, 06:51 PM
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Here's a nice Narcissus image. A whole page!
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...Foqn0AGbv4HoDw
Sorry for all the leg work. James is a Luddite and many aspects of the computrex are over his head.
01-12-2013, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Well, partly right. My "raise" was reduced by the fact that we work the same number of days for conceivably three hours less pay. In other words, I got a $17 an hour raise, however, since I LOST three hours of pay, it's as though my effective raise was reduced by over $7 an hour. And this is just the beginning.............
01-12-2013, 10:52 AM
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"it NEVER should have been released to this pilot group"
You guys have to stop this kind of talk. The MECs voted to release it for a vote based on the information they had. This is why they were elected to represent you and your interests. If you don't like their decisions then run for local council and represent us accordingly.
You will find it ain't as easy as all your whining and complaining would seem to make it.
Just wait till the integration, may the wailing and gnashing of teeth really begin. We don't get a vote this time.
You guys have to stop this kind of talk. The MECs voted to release it for a vote based on the information they had. This is why they were elected to represent you and your interests. If you don't like their decisions then run for local council and represent us accordingly.
You will find it ain't as easy as all your whining and complaining would seem to make it.
Just wait till the integration, may the wailing and gnashing of teeth really begin. We don't get a vote this time.
01-12-2013, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Well, partly right. My "raise" was reduced by the fact that we work the same number of days for conceivably three hours less pay. In other words, I got a $17 an hour raise, however, since I LOST three hours of pay, it's as though my effective raise was reduced by over $7 an hour. And this is just the beginning.............
I believe the L-UAL reserve pays 72 hours now so it is an extra hour than they are getting now.
So when you rant about the "awful" contract at least put some facts into your argument.
01-12-2013, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
"it NEVER should have been released to this pilot group"
You guys have to stop this kind of talk. The MECs voted to release it for a vote based on the information they had. This is why they were elected to represent you and your interests. If you don't like their decisions then run for local council and represent us accordingly.
You will find it ain't as easy as all your whining and complaining would seem to make it.
Just wait till the integration, may the wailing and gnashing of teeth really begin. We don't get a vote this time.
You guys have to stop this kind of talk. The MECs voted to release it for a vote based on the information they had. This is why they were elected to represent you and your interests. If you don't like their decisions then run for local council and represent us accordingly.
You will find it ain't as easy as all your whining and complaining would seem to make it.
Just wait till the integration, may the wailing and gnashing of teeth really begin. We don't get a vote this time.
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