Vacancy Bid Results
02-09-2013, 06:27 AM
#31
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Question.
If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.
do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.
so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?
or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?
thanks.
If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.
do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.
so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?
or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?
thanks.
02-09-2013, 07:26 AM
#32
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It depends on SLI and when it happens. If it takes awhile, you would either have to wait until next system bid and ask for earliest advance (for this last system bid the earliest move is April) or do a base trade with someone in Houston for Newark, which you can post immediately in the CPO office.
Otherwise, if the SLI happens before the next system bid, we're moving to vacancy bidding which is monthly by my understanding.
Otherwise, if the SLI happens before the next system bid, we're moving to vacancy bidding which is monthly by my understanding.
02-09-2013, 03:23 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by tmac3333
It depends on SLI and when it happens. If it takes awhile, you would either have to wait until next system bid and ask for earliest advance (for this last system bid the earliest move is April) or do a base trade with someone in Houston for Newark, which you can post immediately in the CPO office.
Otherwise, if the SLI happens before the next system bid, we're moving to vacancy bidding which is monthly by my understanding.
Otherwise, if the SLI happens before the next system bid, we're moving to vacancy bidding which is monthly by my understanding.
At which point if you do not have a training or advancement date for this system bid, then your award is canceled and you will bid for any vacancies in your current position. Example, if you are currently a EWR 756 FO who held EWR 777 FO on this bid, but you do not have a training class date by the first vacancy bid after SLI then you are going to be a 756 FO bidding for your next position as if you were never awarded EWR 777 FO.
02-09-2013, 04:50 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by All In
Question.
If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.
do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.
so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?
or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?
thanks.
If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.
do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.
so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?
or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?
thanks.
Until the SLI, these are some of your options to get to IAH,
1. Submit a base trade with IAH pilot that wants to go to EWR.Under the old contract there was a 30 day waiting period before it was effective. I know the base trade blocking has been changed but I'm not sure about the wait time.
2. If you are holding EWR 756, you will have to wait until the next bid to bid IAH. It shouldn't be a problem as right now there are a ton of open spots in IAH for the 756 (FO). The company will base adva de you to IAH when they need you (provided it is before the effective date of the bid).
3. Request a hardship. If approved you will be placed at the bottom of the IAH list regardless of seniority.
Good luck.
02-09-2013, 06:45 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
At which point if you do not have a training or advancement date for this system bid, then your award is canceled and you will bid for any vacancies in your current position. Example, if you are currently a EWR 756 FO who held EWR 777 FO on this bid, but you do not have a training class date by the first vacancy bid after SLI then you are going to be a 756 FO bidding for your next position as if you were never awarded EWR 777 FO.
02-09-2013, 07:59 PM
#37
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Position: EWR 756 Captain
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Do they have to begin training or just have a training date? What constitutes training? What it's an advancement date? Sorry for all the questions, just curious. Thx.
It was in the notes of the original system bid bulletin
02-09-2013, 07:59 PM
#38
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Position: UAL FO
Posts: 122
Originally Posted by All In
Question.
If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.
do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.
so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?
or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?
thanks.
If awarded 75/76 EWR. how long would it take to be 75/76 IAH?
not just on paper, but actually flying out of there.
do you have to wait until next system bid?
this one that just came out is for 2014.
so you could get it on paper on next bid 6 months from now, and not actually move until second half of 2014?
or if they have openings there in next few months, can you put it on a monthly standing bid, and be over there by this summer. or would those openings go to new hires this summer?
thanks.
If you were awarded 756 ewr but want iah, why didn t you bid 756 iah?
02-09-2013, 10:50 PM
#39
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Posts: 244
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Do they have to begin training or just have a training date? What constitutes training? What it's an advancement date? Sorry for all the questions, just curious. Thx.
02-10-2013, 03:19 AM
#40
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Position: IAH 320 CA
Posts: 190
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Do they have to begin training or just have a training date? What constitutes training? What it's an advancement date? Sorry for all the questions, just curious. Thx.
Read the T&PA. It says a pilot must be "in the process of completing or who have completed qualification training for a new position".
On the training bulletin, they are trying to say that you just need a class date assigned.
That's not how I read it.
My guess? Expedited arbitration.
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