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03-25-2013, 05:15 PM
#101
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,639
Originally Posted by Olecal
The merger actually occurred OCT 1, 2010. The last of the furloughs were called back on Sept 9-11, 2010.
03-25-2013, 08:07 PM
#102
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: 737F
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by Staller
Your group!
I'd say our "welfare" is pretty good over here. What did "your group" do for your furloughs?
03-26-2013, 12:18 AM
#103
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 536
Originally Posted by Wrsofked
Our group mitigated furloughs down to 147 from an original estimate by the company of 500 to 800, by decreasing line values, early outs, and voluntary reduced flying. We paid their medical insurance premiums while on furlough through special assessment VOTED on by "this group".
I'd say our "welfare" is pretty good over here. What did "your group" do for your furloughs?
I'd say our "welfare" is pretty good over here. What did "your group" do for your furloughs?
03-26-2013, 05:53 AM
#104
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 152
Originally Posted by Wrsofked
Our group mitigated furloughs down to 147 from an original estimate by the company of 500 to 800, by decreasing line values, early outs, and voluntary reduced flying. We paid their medical insurance premiums while on furlough through special assessment VOTED on by "this group".
I'd say our "welfare" is pretty good over here. What did "your group" do for your furloughs?
I'd say our "welfare" is pretty good over here. What did "your group" do for your furloughs?
I don't believe you should ask someone to do this, but it should be an option on the table.
That is a good questions what did you guys do to help mitigate your furloughs?
... All this talk about sticking together and union brothers can be pretty cheap sometimes!
03-26-2013, 06:38 AM
#105
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: 737F
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by Staller
I'd say the 147 is about right but getting their from a tight estimate of the company from 500-800 is BS. They got what they needed and nothing less. As far as the paying for furloughed pilots insurance, the UAL pilots were the first to do that and it has became the model for ALPA and what the CAL guys followed.
The point is/was... for the most part with an exception of a few *****'s, (which I would bet my left nut UAL has a few too) we are all, UAL/CAL pretty much the same. Most of us are just trying to live a decent life, keep the lights on, save a little bit for a dignified retirement. All of us have done our time on reserve, redeyes, working all the holidays, many of us have suffered the devastating effects of furlough....same as you.
You can bash management all you want, I'm right there with you when they do something galactically stupid. BUT this insane bashing of each other is just pointless. We ARE going to be sharing cockpits in the very near future. I LIKE that freaking airbus, never thought I'd say that! Peace...
03-27-2013, 06:40 AM
#106
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: 737 CAPT
Posts: 1,882
Originally Posted by routemap
For every 4 pilots that volunteered to part time status there was one less furlough. I actually did it. 18 months, you averaged about 60 hours per month.
And the second round program offered 1/2 months of flying for 6 months from October 2009 to March 2010. You had to preference to either have the first half off or the second half off and it was awarded in seniority order (senior guys of course getting the second half off so they could be off for Thanksgiving and Christmas). I did this VRF program as well.
Yes, both of them cost me money (and still is if you count the wage portion calculation of the "retro" money), but as someone who lives well within his means, I could easily take the hit. I could not in all good conscience look at myself in the mirror and work full time knowing I could have done something to help just one more pilot stay employed and go to ZERO income. It's the same reason in 14 years in this industry I have NEVER picked up open time (or been junior manned for that matter).
03-27-2013, 06:59 AM
#107
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: The GF of FUPM
Posts: 3,073
Originally Posted by Wrsofked
.....You can bash management all you want, I'm right there with you when they do something galactically stupid. BUT this insane bashing of each other is just pointless. We ARE going to be sharing cockpits in the very near future. I LIKE that freaking airbus, never thought I'd say that! Peace...
Nice sentiment and I agree. This forum has pretty much turned to crap since the pathetic contract was ratified. As such, I've taken up jello wrestling with co-eds to pass the time.
WRT the bus, just wait till you've got a year on it and have gotten all the "but that's not how BOEING does it" crap out of your head. You'll probably love it. Perhaps not initially, but eventually. It's the easiest and most comfortable plane I've ever flown. So, Jeff will probably sell them. It looks like all he wants are RJs, guppies and sparkies.
03-27-2013, 08:14 AM
#109
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: IAH 737 CA
Posts: 690
Originally Posted by Staller
I'd say the 147 is about right but getting their from a tight estimate of the company from 500-800 is BS. They got what they needed and nothing less. As far as the paying for furloughed pilots insurance, the UAL pilots were the first to do that and it has became the model for ALPA and what the CAL guys followed.
There was never a need for the 147 or any other number. You got any reference to support the insurance payments? We were under the inpression UAL never did it at all.
03-27-2013, 08:45 AM
#110
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,639
Originally Posted by EWR73FO
You got any reference to support the insurance payments? We were under the inpression UAL never did it at all.
# # #
To all Furlough Fund Participants,
As you know we have reached the end of the Furlough Fund, and the final checks were issued on Friday, 1 February 2013. As I prepare the final Furlough Fund report for the UAL MEC I would like to include personal testimonials of how the Furlough Fund has helped our furloughees. If you would like to share your story in this report, or even just a simple thank you, please send me an e-mail by Tuesday, 12 February 2013 to be included. If you want to share your story but remain anonymous, let me know and I will de-identify it before including it.
I know how vital this fund has been to many of you. It has been an honor to manage the process of the UAL MEC Furlough Fund and ensure that the assessed funds from our membership were distributed in accordance to the bylaws governing the Furlough Fund.
I look forward to receiving your testimonials.
Fraternally,
J. Todd Coomans
ALPA, UAL MEC Furlough Coordinator
# # #
Furlough Fund Dissolution
For those of you still participating in the Furlough Fund this will serve as a final notice of the dissolution of the Furlough Fund. This is in accordance with the bylaws governing the fund (UAL MEC Policy Manual Volume II Section XVII Paragraph B-f), which states:
“The Fund Dissolution Date shall be determined, but will not exceed three (3) years beyond the last furlough effective date. The Fund will not reimburse eligible furloughed United Airlines pilots health and welfare insurance premium expenses incurred after the dissolution date.”
Our last furlough group was furloughed three years ago, 19 November 2009. The last eligible reimbursement from the fund will be for November 2012 health and dental coverage costs. November 2012 Furlough Fund reimbursement requests must be received at the UAL MEC Office by 25 January 2013 in order to be processed. Any reimbursement application forms received after the deadline will have exceeded the 60 day from payment submission requirement and will not be processed. No extensions will be granted, as the last reimbursement checks will be issued at the end of January 2013.
# # #
August 26, 2009
Dear Fellow Pilot,
With our pilots facing the last round of previously announced furloughs, our Furlough Fund continues to provide COBRA payment assistance to those pilots already furloughed. As I advised you at the start of this assessment, I would continue to evaluate the program and the amount of funds we had available to assist our furloughed brothers and sisters.
With the combination of the Obama stimulus money supplementing COBRA payments and approximately $90,000/month going out, the balance of the fund stands in very good shape. Although you can never be sure of the level of participation with our future furloughees and whether the government plan will be extended past the end of this year, I believe that it is safe to lower the assessment again.
For that reason, the assessment will be reduced to .05% (from .10%) of your wages each month. Both the pilots on ACO and also on direct bill will see the change beginning Sept. 1, 2009. For those of you not on ACO, I again strongly suggest that you sign up for the ease and convenience of the billing process.
Your support for our furloughees has been unwavering throughout and I thank you in advance for your continued support.
Fraternally,
Joseph A. Genovese, Jr.
UAL-MEC Secretary Treasurer
# # #
10/9/08
To All United Pilots,
As you are aware, the United pilots have been asked to consider a ballot to decide on whether to assess the membership up to 1% to cover COBRA expenses for furloughed pilots. Your MEC Officers believe that this goes beyond the decision to just help those brothers and sisters who have or will lose their jobs as a result of management decisions. We believe that your decision should also be based in the sense of unity and solidarity. We need to demonstrate that this pilot group is cohesive and stands united behind its furloughed brothers and sisters.
The ballot closes at 10 a.m. Eastern time on Friday, Oct. 10. Below are instructions on how to cast your ballot. You are encouraged to show your support and unity to not only those who are furloughed, but to all United pilots.
We are a union of pilots. We also are a union of families. Many of your brothers and sisters in the cockpit need you to step up and support this fund.
To all Furlough Fund Participants,
As you know we have reached the end of the Furlough Fund, and the final checks were issued on Friday, 1 February 2013. As I prepare the final Furlough Fund report for the UAL MEC I would like to include personal testimonials of how the Furlough Fund has helped our furloughees. If you would like to share your story in this report, or even just a simple thank you, please send me an e-mail by Tuesday, 12 February 2013 to be included. If you want to share your story but remain anonymous, let me know and I will de-identify it before including it.
I know how vital this fund has been to many of you. It has been an honor to manage the process of the UAL MEC Furlough Fund and ensure that the assessed funds from our membership were distributed in accordance to the bylaws governing the Furlough Fund.
I look forward to receiving your testimonials.
Fraternally,
J. Todd Coomans
ALPA, UAL MEC Furlough Coordinator
# # #
Furlough Fund Dissolution
For those of you still participating in the Furlough Fund this will serve as a final notice of the dissolution of the Furlough Fund. This is in accordance with the bylaws governing the fund (UAL MEC Policy Manual Volume II Section XVII Paragraph B-f), which states:
“The Fund Dissolution Date shall be determined, but will not exceed three (3) years beyond the last furlough effective date. The Fund will not reimburse eligible furloughed United Airlines pilots health and welfare insurance premium expenses incurred after the dissolution date.”
Our last furlough group was furloughed three years ago, 19 November 2009. The last eligible reimbursement from the fund will be for November 2012 health and dental coverage costs. November 2012 Furlough Fund reimbursement requests must be received at the UAL MEC Office by 25 January 2013 in order to be processed. Any reimbursement application forms received after the deadline will have exceeded the 60 day from payment submission requirement and will not be processed. No extensions will be granted, as the last reimbursement checks will be issued at the end of January 2013.
# # #
August 26, 2009
Dear Fellow Pilot,
With our pilots facing the last round of previously announced furloughs, our Furlough Fund continues to provide COBRA payment assistance to those pilots already furloughed. As I advised you at the start of this assessment, I would continue to evaluate the program and the amount of funds we had available to assist our furloughed brothers and sisters.
With the combination of the Obama stimulus money supplementing COBRA payments and approximately $90,000/month going out, the balance of the fund stands in very good shape. Although you can never be sure of the level of participation with our future furloughees and whether the government plan will be extended past the end of this year, I believe that it is safe to lower the assessment again.
For that reason, the assessment will be reduced to .05% (from .10%) of your wages each month. Both the pilots on ACO and also on direct bill will see the change beginning Sept. 1, 2009. For those of you not on ACO, I again strongly suggest that you sign up for the ease and convenience of the billing process.
Your support for our furloughees has been unwavering throughout and I thank you in advance for your continued support.
Fraternally,
Joseph A. Genovese, Jr.
UAL-MEC Secretary Treasurer
# # #
10/9/08
To All United Pilots,
As you are aware, the United pilots have been asked to consider a ballot to decide on whether to assess the membership up to 1% to cover COBRA expenses for furloughed pilots. Your MEC Officers believe that this goes beyond the decision to just help those brothers and sisters who have or will lose their jobs as a result of management decisions. We believe that your decision should also be based in the sense of unity and solidarity. We need to demonstrate that this pilot group is cohesive and stands united behind its furloughed brothers and sisters.
The ballot closes at 10 a.m. Eastern time on Friday, Oct. 10. Below are instructions on how to cast your ballot. You are encouraged to show your support and unity to not only those who are furloughed, but to all United pilots.
We are a union of pilots. We also are a union of families. Many of your brothers and sisters in the cockpit need you to step up and support this fund.
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