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Actually I think you are agreeing with Syd
but I must admit I disagree.
With the advent of deregulation JetBlue was able to start from zero and go to hero in no time flat because they had lower labor costs, lower aircraft costs, and city aid to lower terminal costs. There is no labor union on Earth that can compete with rules that offer no protections to older workers in an industry where the structural basis of the costs go up over time no matter what. Meaning the older an airline becomes the more expensive it is to operate, and therefore the more vulnerable it is to be undercut by non-unionized and international competition. Pan Am didn't die because ALPA failed Pan Am. Pan Am died because other pilots undercut Pan Am payrates with B-scales and youth. Labor has no protection or rights in our society because Milton Freedman has convinced the majority of voters that unions are "inefficient" and make workers lazy. People don't realize that it's not a question of labor against labor it's a question of labor against capital. Everything we take for granted as workers such as 5 day work weeks, vacation, paid sick leave, etc. etc. all came from unions, but today unions have become the enemy in the eyes of the public and ALPA could not possibly have won that battle or war even if they acted perfectly at every step,
BUT,
that doesn't change the fact that we still have to fight today as in the battle to keep foreign carriers from undercutting the few advantages we have left in the CONUS travel market, but if we keep quitting ALPA and splintering our voice the war is already lost regardless of the politics.
but I must admit I disagree. With the advent of deregulation JetBlue was able to start from zero and go to hero in no time flat because they had lower labor costs, lower aircraft costs, and city aid to lower terminal costs. There is no labor union on Earth that can compete with rules that offer no protections to older workers in an industry where the structural basis of the costs go up over time no matter what. Meaning the older an airline becomes the more expensive it is to operate, and therefore the more vulnerable it is to be undercut by non-unionized and international competition. Pan Am didn't die because ALPA failed Pan Am. Pan Am died because other pilots undercut Pan Am payrates with B-scales and youth. Labor has no protection or rights in our society because Milton Freedman has convinced the majority of voters that unions are "inefficient" and make workers lazy. People don't realize that it's not a question of labor against labor it's a question of labor against capital. Everything we take for granted as workers such as 5 day work weeks, vacation, paid sick leave, etc. etc. all came from unions, but today unions have become the enemy in the eyes of the public and ALPA could not possibly have won that battle or war even if they acted perfectly at every step,
BUT,
that doesn't change the fact that we still have to fight today as in the battle to keep foreign carriers from undercutting the few advantages we have left in the CONUS travel market, but if we keep quitting ALPA and splintering our voice the war is already lost regardless of the politics.
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