Dude it's not conjecture. It's MATH.

Certainly .. Take the list of both pilot groups, in spreadsheet format, filter out one group, then sort on birth date. Take arbitrary pilot, delete all those pilots older than him (they retire before said arbitrary pilot). Now sort remaining list based on date of hire. This will show number of pilots senior to said arbitrary pilot on the day he retires and his relative seniority. You can do this for each and every year. Rerun the projection for the arbitrary pilot 5 years into the future by just deleting the pilots that were born in 1953 and earlier. Rerun the projection for 10 years by deleting pilots that were born in 1958 and earlier.

Now, do the projection with both pilot groups at the 5 10 and 15 year mark and you'll see how the CAL 2007 hires will ALL be flying metal that they had never any hopes to fly.

So, they made their career choice to finish their career as a 737 captain, and that's exactly where they should finish up, not sitting in the left seat of a 747 for the last 15 years of their career.

Exactly. I'd be shocked if the UAL proposed seniority list doesn't do this exact analysis.

Amazing how you can use simple math to quantify something like career expectations instead of just relying on talking points and hyperbole.

Absent the merger, United was destined to disappear much like the dinosaur they resembled. How's that for career expectations?

Yeah - instead we just bought you instead.

That is sooooo patently false that even CAL counsel didn't try to spread that lie. I can do the same thing, and it's backed by as much evidence as your falsehood: Absent the merger, CAL was destined to disappear like the small regiional carriers of the past (Oh, but actually Smisek did say something to that effect).

See how easy it is. Now, go to the spreadsheet and do some MEANINGFUL extrapolation of career expectations and check back in :).

..........mistake.............

Don't want to fly the 747 that won't be here. Absent merger capt seat in 2yrs. With merger capt seat in two yrs

Put the pipe down.

Step back - collect your thoughts and you will be more coherent.

I liked the fact that the member wasn't goaded in to a classless response like the one fruend got away with... I hope it made you feel real good!!! Simple little zinger, for your simple mind... I'm sure there will be more to come to keep you entertained.... Good luck with your number....