CAL Express DOH question
#21
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The majority of the posts for SLI are nothing but arguing and fighting like a bunch of kids in my opinion. Also, a good portion of the posts are opinion and conjecture spoken like facts to either incite or smear or vent anger. The kicker, even if all was 100% true, is it doesn't mean a thing except cause two pilot groups to hate each other and help the company keep failing to succeed. Only glimmer here is the same posters keep posting the same garbage and it is not everyone, I hope.
As for me, I am ready to get this done, take my licks and have fun flying with everyone or whatever airframe.
As for me, I am ready to get this done, take my licks and have fun flying with everyone or whatever airframe.
A company will fail or succeed on it's own merits. We are simply blue collar labor that fill seats to safely operate an airplane.
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#23
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Not at all - The airline industry will continue to treat the cal pilots for what they've been known for - I won't us the words but won't stop others from using them. Not such a bad deal - you guys have been known for these types of actions for years and should be use to the less than stellar treatment. The cal pilots are responsible for the anti- union actions of your mc and MEC. So don't feel like you are picking on for no reason -
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I've been a Cal pilot for over a decade and the rest of the Airline industry treats me great! I have jump seated home on another airline for over ten years and have been warmly welcomed. As a matter of fact I just ran into an old co worker who told me he wished he would have been lucky enough to get hired at CAL because his career has had so many setbacks. You are delusional :-/
Am I supposed to be treated poorly? Because if I am, the entire industry is failing.
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I've been a Cal pilot for over a decade and the rest of the Airline industry treats me great! I have jump seated home on another airline for over ten years and have been warmly welcomed. As a matter of fact I just ran into an old co worker who told me he wished he would have been lucky enough to get hired at CAL because his career has had so many setbacks. You are delusional :-/
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A list of factual events without arguing one side or the other. A list of events that show a pattern of anti-unionism at best. A list of events that were offered outright support or support by act of omission. You even have the temerity to say even if it was all true, it doesn't mean a thing. It does mean something. I contend that we will have to deal with this behavior/mentality for the balance of our careers, and therefore will be hard to dismiss. Does this rise to the level of hatred? Absolutely not. It rises to the level of one shaking their head and uttering the words.."really?"
A company will fail or succeed on it's own merits. We are simply blue collar labor that fill seats to safely operate an airplane.
A company will fail or succeed on it's own merits. We are simply blue collar labor that fill seats to safely operate an airplane.
So special are you going to judge me this same way or the even the whole CAL pilot group like some have? A group that has nothing to do with the arbitration? That is my point.
Btw...employees make companies too. We all want fair treatment by mgmt but we can and do make a difference even if mgmt can't do the right thing. You know that?
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So special are you going to judge me this same way or the even the whole CAL pilot group like some have? A group that has nothing to do with the arbitration? That is my point.
Btw...employees make companies too. We all want fair treatment by mgmt but we can and do make a difference even if mgmt can't do the right thing. You know that?
Btw...employees make companies too. We all want fair treatment by mgmt but we can and do make a difference even if mgmt can't do the right thing. You know that?
#28
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Okay hold me accountable then. I'm quaking in my scab bubba boots as to just what that might mean. If it means guaranteed silent treatment from your yap on a 4 day then call me Jay Pierce!
#29
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No excuse here. I want my MEC to do their job, even if you disagree with them but for you told hold me personally accountable is a bit silly. I spoke with and heard Heppner speak in IAH with your furloughees. He was not real warm is putting it lightly and was pretty disparaging about is CAL guys. Should I hold you accountable for your MEC's actions then and now. I disagree with your proposal for sure but guess what, you or 99% of your fellow pilots didn't write it or present it so how can I really blame you?
Are you going to hold me accountable for our CEO since he was CAL? Just as some can try and blame all the yes or no voters for the contract and how it hurt them. It doesn't matter now since it is what we have and WE have to make the best of it. Unless you like to be bitter and angry and always want to hate us at CAL?
#30
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Unfortunately, my MEC's actions have upset you. I tried to stop it. I called my MEC and told them how powerful and respected a United pilot is. I told them, they have the jumbo and were once the highest paid pilots in the industry. I was adament our MEC should do everything it can to help these honorable mighty United pilots. after all, they have lost so much! ... Did I mention they have the jumbo?
And now, my worst fears are a reality, I am being held accountable by a LUAL pilot on a public Internet forum.
Darn!
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