UPA Next Steps
07-02-2013 | 07:04 AM
#11
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From: The GF of FUPM
Our "union" doesn't have a cap with guys on furlough as far as I know.
Plus we came up with a really cool way to screw them even more in the new JCBA. Yessir, lets march in lockstep all ye Stepford Pilots!
With PBS (Pathetic Bidding System) you get what Hal wants you to get, irrespective of how many thousands you toss at the variables. Pilot input is essentially meaningless because its a shell game unless you're hyper senior in your seat. Three Card Monte and you're the chump! The system really sucks, and from what I hear, uCAL's is even worse. To put a cherry on top, its my understanding that we're transitioning to the uCAL system.
There are your happy thoughts for the day!
Plus we came up with a really cool way to screw them even more in the new JCBA. Yessir, lets march in lockstep all ye Stepford Pilots!
With PBS (Pathetic Bidding System) you get what Hal wants you to get, irrespective of how many thousands you toss at the variables. Pilot input is essentially meaningless because its a shell game unless you're hyper senior in your seat. Three Card Monte and you're the chump! The system really sucks, and from what I hear, uCAL's is even worse. To put a cherry on top, its my understanding that we're transitioning to the uCAL system.
There are your happy thoughts for the day!
07-02-2013 | 08:55 AM
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What raise??? I used to get 89 hours a month, now that CAL has opened bases in ORD on the Guppy, and most of our domestic flying went to them, I now enjoy the base pay of 70 hours and lovely reserve after being on the 767 for 7 years.
Yeah thanks for the bump in pay, lack of workrules we had BEFORE you guys came over with a contract that OBVIOUSLY pointed out that our draconian and expensive contract was unnecessary.
Question: If you were king of the airline, and you had two groups. One, that held you to your contract with them, or two, the other that *****d themselves out with zero work rules, and BEGGED to fly until their eyes bled.......which side would you grow???
Jaykris
ex rEAL (yeah thanks for that one too!)
Yeah thanks for the bump in pay, lack of workrules we had BEFORE you guys came over with a contract that OBVIOUSLY pointed out that our draconian and expensive contract was unnecessary.
Question: If you were king of the airline, and you had two groups. One, that held you to your contract with them, or two, the other that *****d themselves out with zero work rules, and BEGGED to fly until their eyes bled.......which side would you grow???
Jaykris
ex rEAL (yeah thanks for that one too!)
07-02-2013 | 10:54 AM
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From: B737ca
What raise??? I used to get 89 hours a month, now that CAL has opened bases in ORD on the Guppy, and most of our domestic flying went to them, I now enjoy the base pay of 70 hours and lovely reserve after being on the 767 for 7 years.
Yeah thanks for the bump in pay, lack of workrules we had BEFORE you guys came over with a contract that OBVIOUSLY pointed out that our draconian and expensive contract was unnecessary.
Question: If you were king of the airline, and you had two groups. One, that held you to your contract with them, or two, the other that *****d themselves out with zero work rules, and BEGGED to fly until their eyes bled.......which side would you grow???
Jaykris
ex rEAL (yeah thanks for that one too!)
Yeah thanks for the bump in pay, lack of workrules we had BEFORE you guys came over with a contract that OBVIOUSLY pointed out that our draconian and expensive contract was unnecessary.
Question: If you were king of the airline, and you had two groups. One, that held you to your contract with them, or two, the other that *****d themselves out with zero work rules, and BEGGED to fly until their eyes bled.......which side would you grow???
Jaykris
ex rEAL (yeah thanks for that one too!)
07-02-2013 | 11:05 AM
#16
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From: B737ca
Your blaming me for Eastern Airlines too?? That's a good one. How about Obamacare is that CALs fault? Our work rules were degraded as the result of a concessionary contract, much as your pay and scope was given up. Stop blaming us for all your problems I do the same as you, show up, fly, follow the contract and vote, the rest is out of my hands. I've been a member in good standing w Alpa for close to 20 years, don't hang your bad luck on me.
07-02-2013 | 11:55 AM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
You get paid M5D. So you can get 90 hours credit for a month. Without having to sit in an airplane for all of those 90 hours.
07-02-2013 | 01:51 PM
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From: 7ERB
We had guys on Furlough, yet the union told us high time does not effect staffing. Give me a break. 
, you are working too much.
07-02-2013 | 05:25 PM
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From: 737 CA
And the guys who fly the high time turns you now can't fly them back to back... Sled, it's all according to your point of view....Just because you like them don't think its blanket coverage for all....Or I guess in your point of view" how dare someone think different than me I'm a United guy, I saved you!!!" I'd love to hear you gloating like you do here in the crew room sometime, but in reality you probably wouldn't... you just like to be tough on here. Sooner or later you'll grow up and maybe get that left seat. Sled, the world does not revolve around you. Get the point?
I'll be the guy with the FU t-shirt.Sled
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07-02-2013 | 06:06 PM
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From: Airbus
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