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Old 07-03-2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Well if a CAL 67 Capt complained to me about not consistently crediting 89 hrs/month while people were furloughed, I would tell him/her that he/she is a greedy *insert explicitive*. Apparently you find this person's actions completely defensible. Can't wait for guys like you to teach me how to be a real union pilot...
Know the situation ! PBS builds the lines NOT ME! The only way to work less, is to call in sick! I am OUT of sick leave......coincidence??
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Old 07-03-2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jaykris
Wow......my bad luck!!?? The CAL pilots with the scabs help, under Lorenzo stole all the assets from an ALPA carrier for their own benefit.

As far as a concessionary contract, thank your MEC for allowing the company to divide the forces, with such quotes as " I will hold up this contract forever if I have too".....
Lost workrules!!!! LOL! You didnt have any too lose! They were called the FARs.

Bad luck.......I have a few choice words for you on that one...
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I'll apologize for him. By "me" he meant personally. Continental Airlines was directly responsible for EAL's demise. The SCAB's are the lowest of the low and attributed to a great airline hitting the crapper. They should be shunned. I was not at CAL at the time (I'm 41) but as a representative of CAL, I certainly know the history. Frank Lorenzo doesn't run CAL anymore. "Frank Lorenzo" now runs all the airlines. I.E. All management is untrustworthy to take care of their most important employees. We as pilots need to keep that in mind and look out after each other. I look forward to flying with you all.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
J,

I'll apologize for him. By "me" he meant personally. Continental Airlines was directly responsible for EAL's demise. The SCAB's are the lowest of the low and attributed to a great airline hitting the crapper. They should be shunned. I was not at CAL at the time (I'm 41) but as a representative of CAL, I certainly know the history. Frank Lorenzo doesn't run CAL anymore. "Frank Lorenzo" now runs all the airlines. I.E. All management is untrustworthy to take care of their most important employees. We as pilots need to keep that in mind and look out after each other. I look forward to flying with you all.
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Old 07-04-2013 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jaykris
Know the situation ! PBS builds the lines NOT ME! The only way to work less, is to call in sick! I am OUT of sick leave......coincidence??
Well jay here's your quote that set me off

Originally Posted by jaykris
What raise??? I used to get 89 hours a month, now that CAL has opened bases in ORD on the Guppy, and most of our domestic flying went to them, I now enjoy the base pay of 70 hours and lovely reserve after being on the 767 for 7 years.
To me that read like someone that at least financially wishes he was flying 89 hours/month even though others are furloughed. If you are willing to bid min line and actually fly it if awarded then I am in the wrong. Sorry for your pain, but I got plenty of buds on the 767 in EWR and IAH that are in the same boat your are from UAL Jumbos arrivals.

I doubt it will be recognized, but the point of this thread was to disparage CAL for our Jurassic work rules. Ah meanwhile UAL had 95 hour narrowbody lines. Sorry if I roll my eyes at the irony of getting talked down to...
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Old 07-05-2013 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
To me that read like someone that at least financially wishes he was flying 89 hours/month even though others are furloughed. If you are willing to bid min line and actually fly it if awarded then I am in the wrong.
I find it quite ironic that many of the CAL pilots are taking up the plight of UAL's furloughed pilots when at the same time they want to throw them under the ISL bus.
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Old 07-05-2013 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
I find it quite ironic that many of the CAL pilots are taking up the plight of UAL's furloughed pilots when at the same time they want to throw them under the ISL bus.
Why screw them on a monthly basis when you can give them a single epic f'ing they'll feel for the rest of their careers?!

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Old 07-05-2013 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
Why screw them on a monthly basis when you can give them a single epic f'ing they'll feel for the rest of their careers?!

Nice avatar :-)
Keep feeding off your prejudice.......
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Old 07-05-2013 | 04:01 PM
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Just imagine the potential scene in a year or so; 2005 Capt & 1998 F/O.

Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
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Old 07-05-2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL
Just imagine the potential scene in a year or so; 2005 Capt & 1998 F/O.

Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
Imagine the scene a a couple of years from now.
Chief Pilot to FO. Enjoy your new career
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Old 07-05-2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL
Just imagine the potential scene in a year or so; 2005 Capt & 1998 F/O.

Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
So, who's the captain and who's the FO in this conversation?
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