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#41
Well if a CAL 67 Capt complained to me about not consistently crediting 89 hrs/month while people were furloughed, I would tell him/her that he/she is a greedy *insert explicitive*. Apparently you find this person's actions completely defensible. Can't wait for guys like you to teach me how to be a real union pilot...

#42
Wow......my bad luck!!?? The CAL pilots with the scabs help, under Lorenzo stole all the assets from an ALPA carrier for their own benefit.
As far as a concessionary contract, thank your MEC for allowing the company to divide the forces, with such quotes as " I will hold up this contract forever if I have too".....
Lost workrules!!!! LOL! You didnt have any too lose! They were called the FARs.
Bad luck.......I have a few choice words for you on that one...
As far as a concessionary contract, thank your MEC for allowing the company to divide the forces, with such quotes as " I will hold up this contract forever if I have too".....
Lost workrules!!!! LOL! You didnt have any too lose! They were called the FARs.
Bad luck.......I have a few choice words for you on that one...
I'll apologize for him. By "me" he meant personally. Continental Airlines was directly responsible for EAL's demise. The SCAB's are the lowest of the low and attributed to a great airline hitting the crapper. They should be shunned. I was not at CAL at the time (I'm 41) but as a representative of CAL, I certainly know the history. Frank Lorenzo doesn't run CAL anymore. "Frank Lorenzo" now runs all the airlines. I.E. All management is untrustworthy to take care of their most important employees. We as pilots need to keep that in mind and look out after each other. I look forward to flying with you all.
#43
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J,
I'll apologize for him. By "me" he meant personally. Continental Airlines was directly responsible for EAL's demise. The SCAB's are the lowest of the low and attributed to a great airline hitting the crapper. They should be shunned. I was not at CAL at the time (I'm 41) but as a representative of CAL, I certainly know the history. Frank Lorenzo doesn't run CAL anymore. "Frank Lorenzo" now runs all the airlines. I.E. All management is untrustworthy to take care of their most important employees. We as pilots need to keep that in mind and look out after each other. I look forward to flying with you all.
I'll apologize for him. By "me" he meant personally. Continental Airlines was directly responsible for EAL's demise. The SCAB's are the lowest of the low and attributed to a great airline hitting the crapper. They should be shunned. I was not at CAL at the time (I'm 41) but as a representative of CAL, I certainly know the history. Frank Lorenzo doesn't run CAL anymore. "Frank Lorenzo" now runs all the airlines. I.E. All management is untrustworthy to take care of their most important employees. We as pilots need to keep that in mind and look out after each other. I look forward to flying with you all.
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I doubt it will be recognized, but the point of this thread was to disparage CAL for our Jurassic work rules. Ah meanwhile UAL had 95 hour narrowbody lines. Sorry if I roll my eyes at the irony of getting talked down to...
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I find it quite ironic that many of the CAL pilots are taking up the plight of UAL's furloughed pilots when at the same time they want to throw them under the ISL bus.
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From: 787 Captain
Nice avatar :-)
#48
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Just imagine the potential scene in a year or so; 2005 Capt & 1998 F/O.
Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
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Just imagine the potential scene in a year or so; 2005 Capt & 1998 F/O.
Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
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#50
Just imagine the potential scene in a year or so; 2005 Capt & 1998 F/O.
Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
Leg 1. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 2. "So, did you get the outside?", "No"
Leg 3. "So, are you going to get the outside?", "No"
Leg 4. "So, are you going to get the outside?, ever?", "No"
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