missintheline

Just got this in an email:

Preparations for upcoming L-UAL recall

Upon the company's receipt of an integrated pilot seniority list, we intend to extend recall offers to the remainder of the L-UAL pilots on furlough. In preparation, these pilots are strongly encouraged to take two actions as soon as possible:

1. Confirm the ability to log in to United’s intranet, Flying Together (http://flyingtogether.ual.com)

2. Ensure that contact information on file with the company is correct
To log in to flyingtogether.ual.com, use “u” followed by your six-digit file number for the username and your Skynet password. If a password reset is needed, contact the 24-hour Service Desk at 847-700-5800.

If your address, phone number, or email has changed since your furlough date (and you have not already updated it), contact the Pilot Service Center .

Another issue of the Furloughed Pilots Update will be published with additional details regarding the upcoming recalls.

dvhighdrive88

Publishing company numbers a good idea?

dvhighdrive88

Does this say anything about SLI or just a requirement to offer before hiring off street post SLI?

cadetdrivr

This.

It's mostly a technicality as this point considering everybody has been offered a job already, but the box needs to be checked for multiple reasons.

We really won't know about SLI until we see the award.

APC225

Too late.

Benefits contacts for United Airlines and Continental Airlines retirees

InflightCBT

Unimatic Information

http://ualao.etriptrader.com/help/?doc=techsupport

http://www.directly.com/p/united-air...o-skynet-41245

Madmagpilot

"Technicality" wrong. There are those that took a position on the cal side. This is the recall on L-UAL side. There is a difference. Grant after SLI we are "one" but there are quite a few folks whose status will change.

cadetdrivr

Oh sure, there is a difference today.

But after SLI what is it? Please be specific.

jetlink

I was replying to the post from other topic, but I think it will relate well to this one:

Pilots that have accepted offer as a new hire in L-CAL are not recalled L-UAL pilots; however, according TA from 2012, those pilots that have been trained or, are currently in training, even though on B737, will be considered active pilot on ISL and therefore recalled in place, since all equipment will be consider United. After implementation of SLI, there is no more L-CAL or L-UAL, pilots or equipment, there is simple United fleet and seniority list. Those that are already here, are United pilots in their respective seniority position, the rest of the furloughed pilots will receive and official recall notice and call.
This is how I understand the provision of the TA.
Have your shrink visit booked in advanced, since there will be a lot of pilots confused, upset, and in result depressed after SLI. :-)

UPA December 2012:
LOA 25 Merger Transition Issues

2. s/United Pilots Offered s/Continental Jobs:

s/United pilots who were offered employment at s/Continental in accordance with paragraph 7.B of the Transition and Process Agreement dated September 26, 2010 will not be considered to be on Involuntary Furlough for purposes of Section 5-B-1-a-(1) of the Agreement.

5. Transition Hiring and Recall

It is understood by the parties that the rights of the pilots to new hire positions are governed by Section 7 of the TPA until completion of the ISL at which time the Agreement process shall apply to all vacancies and recalls, including the recall of all pilots on voluntary furlough.

... and from Transition and Process Agreement:

5-B. Acceptance of Integrated Seniority List.
Subject only to the conditions stated below, the Parties will accept the results of the Seniority List Integration and incorporate them in the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement.
(i) The Integrated Seniority List shall have only prospective effect. Specifically, and without limiting the generality of the foregoing, the following conditions shall apply:
a. There shall be no "system flush" whereby a Pilot may displace another Pilot from the latter’s position as a result of the implementation of the Integrated Seniority List or the implementation or expiration of any condition or restriction; and
b. Pilots on furlough status at the time the Integrated Seniority List is implemented may not bump or displace pilots in active status at that time; and
c. Pilots who, at the time of implementation of an integrated seniority list, are in the process of completing or who have completed qualification training for a new position (e.g., B-777 Captain or A-319 First Officer) may be assigned to the position for which they are being or have been trained, regardless of their relative standing on the Integrated Seniority List.
(ii) There shall be no requirement or obligation to compensate Pilots for work not actually performed or positions not actually held during the period for which compensation is sought, as a result of the Integrated Seniority List and its implementation.
(iii) The Integrated Seniority List shall not contain conditions or restrictions that substantially increase the costs associated with training above those normally associated with the merger of two airlines.

7-B. Job Opportunities.

(i) If either Continental or United intends to hire new Pilots, it will first offer employment to fill such positions in seniority order to Pilots on furlough from the other Airline. Acceptance or rejection of such an offer or failure to qualify will not affect a Pilot’s recall rights or placement on the Integrated Seniority List (which shall be based upon his seniority position at the Pilot’s originating Airline). A Pilot accepting an offer under this provision will be subject to the normal background and employment requirements of the employing Airline. The Pilot will be an employee of the employing Airline, within the applicable ALPA council for that Airline, but will not be required to serve or complete a probation period. Such Pilot will be paid the greater of (1) the actual hourly pay rate he was receiving on the date of his furlough, or (2) the hourly pay rate to which his years of service at the employing Airline otherwise entitles.
(ii) No Pilot shall be entitled to more than two (2) offers of employment pursuant to this Section 7-B. If a Pilot declines the first offer, the employing Airline will not contact him for a second offer until he provides at least thirty (30) days notice to the employing Airline in writing of his desire to re-enter the hiring process. At that time he will be eligible for the next available offer in seniority order.
(iii) Pilots employed pursuant to this Section 7-B will exercise seniority for all purposes at the employing Airline in the seniority order of their originating Airline but junior to all Pilots who were on the seniority list of the employing Airline prior to the Merger Agreement Date. Upon implementation of the ISL Pilots will exercise seniority pursuant to their position on the ISL. All Pilots hired by the employing Airline after the Merger Agreement Date who are not Pilots employed pursuant to this Section 7-B will exercise their seniority for all purposes junior to all Pilots who were on either seniority list prior to the Merger Agreement Date.
(iv) Notwithstanding Section 27, Part 2.A.2, B.2 or C.2 of the Continental CBA, all Pilots on either the United Pilots’ or Continental Pilots’ Seniority List as of the Effective Date of this Agreement employed by Continental shall be eligible for Medical, Dental and Vision Plan coverage on the Pilot’s first day of Active Service.

cadetdrivr

FWIW, here's the Cliff's Notes version the UALMEC put out this evening:

Straight & Level: Learn the Facts From Your MEC -- UPDATED

Question: After the ISL is released, I’m hearing that those L-UAL furloughees hired by L-CAL (u-Hires) won’t be able to bid for line preferencing or vacancies until they rebid into their current position or into an open position. Any truth to that?

Fact: (from JIT and JNC): Not true. Once the list comes out we will update numbers and pay longevity within a couple days. Barring any unforeseen delays and depending on the actual release of the ISL, uHires should be able to bid the next possible bid month’s PBS schedules with their new seniority numbers. Pay longevity may take a little longer since it requires manual data entry but will pay retroactively to ISL release date. Also, unless the ISL award specifies otherwise, uHires should be able to use their new numbers for vacancy bidding soon after the award is accepted by the Company.

jetlink

and your point is? You are referring to bidding for vacancies in their respective seniority after ISL, that is understood, once ISL is published, and your name is on the list as an active United pilot, you'll be able to bid for vacancies in your held ISL seniority immediately.
For some pilots on the bottom, it will not be a happy day though.

The question was (referring to other post), are they given an opportunity to be officially recalled, or are they considered recalled in place. I just thought, it may be relevant to this post, since it particularly referencing pilots on furlough preparing for recall. For those still on furlough or new hire L-CAL, I just thought this info may be helpful. I'm not trying to be a smart @$$, I'm just trying to point out some relative info as a source to start with; our UPA and TA.
Some pilots (furloughed L-UAL as new hired in L-CAL) expressed their concern that they won't have an opportunity to bypass recall and exercise the 10 year recall rights. However, according to TA they will no longer be considered involuntarily furloughed since they have accepted employment in CAL.