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Coach67 10-21-2013 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1505225)
Ya think? I've also noticed an increase on field stand by and annoying stuff like that. Might be a gentle push by the company to try and get guys to bid off.

Not really ... the reason you are seeing more FSB's is because they are free now thanks to this new POS contract. They used to pay 5 hours.

CALFO 10-21-2013 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1505141)
I don't think in this case there is a big difference between displacement based training events, and vacancy based training. If a bunch of 767 FO's and Capts bump to 737 Capt, which is the airplane that will be replacing their fleet, in their base, that training event is the same.

If a super junior 737 Captain gets bumped, what is he going to be able to bump too? More than likely a 737 FO, which he is probably still qualified to fly with just a PC in the right seat, or maybe just a few more days of training.

When bumps start higher on the food chain, like during a big furlough, the snowball starts at the top. The snowball gets very big, very fast.

In this case, maybe not so much. IMHO.

I am surprised the company is sitting on that many excess 767 pilots getting paid not to fly. Since they all live in Denver anyway, why not sit around getting paid for nada? I would.

The junior 737 captains can hold 737, 320, 756, 777, 787 FO positions in all bases. Or, depending on the base, they can hold 737 capt in another base.

756IAHFO 10-21-2013 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1505142)
What is even worse, is the most junior of those 737 Captains probably haven't even been trained yet. Maybe manpower planning is playing favorites after all.


It comes down to experience. Most UAL FOs have not been captain on anything in the past 12 years. Most of the CAL pilots have been a captain either at CAL or at a regional within the past 7 years.

Which pilot do you want making captain decisions?? The one sitting around and comfortable in the right seat and is getting old or the young guy that has recent PIC experience.

Ask passengers this question....

We have now gone to a merit based system, finally. In this case I will be chief pilot soon.

Take Priority 10-21-2013 05:36 AM

After getting bumped out of the Left seat in 2002 & 2009. It will be nice to get bumped out of the right seat to the Left. Crazy.

NFLUALNFL 10-21-2013 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by 756IAHFO (Post 1505256)
It comes down to experience. Most UAL FOs have not been captain on anything in the past 12 years. Most of the CAL pilots have been a captain either at CAL or at a regional within the past 7 years.

Which pilot do you want making captain decisions?? The one sitting around and comfortable in the right seat and is getting old or the young guy that has recent PIC experience.

Ask passengers this question....

We have now gone to a merit based system, finally. In this case I will be chief pilot soon.

Good luck with your next drug test.

Take Priority 10-21-2013 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by 756IAHFO (Post 1505256)
It comes down to experience. Most UAL FOs have not been captain on anything in the past 12 years. Most of the CAL pilots have been a captain either at CAL or at a regional within the past 7 years.

Which pilot do you want making captain decisions?? The one sitting around and comfortable in the right seat and is getting old or the young guy that has recent PIC experience.

Ask passengers this question....

We have now gone to a merit based system, finally. In this case I will be chief pilot soon.


That is halarious. "Captain decisions". Yea I'm not qualified to make those kind of decisions cause I'm busy sitting on my hands.
IAH, you need a 5th stripe cause your RJ Command time made you a "Super Commander of Apollo 13". I'll be sure and give you a salute in the terminal.

756IAHFO 10-21-2013 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by Take Priority (Post 1505266)
That is halarious. "Captain decisions". Yea I'm not qualified to make those kind of decisions cause I'm busy sitting on my hands.
IAH, you need a 5th stripe cause your RJ Command time made you a "Super Commander of Apollo 13". I'll be sure and give you a salute in the terminal.


Saweet! More like Apollo 13 and a half...

Hang on baby, its time for re-entry....



On a real note, why is Airbus captain around the 6,000 seniority the mark? I don't see why the captains at LUAL were so senior. How old are they, like 50+?


If things go as planned, tonight I'll be visitin Uranus.

oldmako 10-21-2013 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by 756IAHFO (Post 1505256)
It comes down to experience. Most UAL FOs have not been captain on anything in the past 12 years. Most of the CAL pilots have been a captain either at CAL or at a regional within the past 7 years.

Which pilot do you want making captain decisions?? The one sitting around and comfortable in the right seat and is getting old or the young guy that has recent PIC experience.

Ask passengers this question....

We have now gone to a merit based system, finally. In this case I will be chief pilot soon.


What a steaming load******** Thanks for the belly laugh. ***********

ron kent 10-21-2013 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by 756IAHFO (Post 1505256)
It comes down to experience. Most UAL FOs have not been captain on anything in the past 12 years. Most of the CAL pilots have been a captain either at CAL or at a regional within the past 7 years.

Which pilot do you want making captain decisions?? The one sitting around and comfortable in the right seat and is getting old or the young guy that has recent PIC experience.

Ask passengers this question....

We have now gone to a merit based system, finally. In this case I will be chief pilot soon.

This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this forum...and there is a lot of dumb stuff written here.

oldmako 10-21-2013 06:32 AM

Not only that, he just gave the finger to about 4000 LUAL guys and probably 1500 or so LCAL types. Funny thing about hubris, the one full of it, is usually full of it!


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